Karen Smythe 0:00 Okay, okay. I'm calling the meeting to order, and if you will join me in the Pledge of Allegiance, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. I see that I don't have the June 20-second meeting minutes in my packet. It may have moved into Frances Uku 0:36 because I had to move my. It's under public Karen Smythe 0:38 hearing. Frances Uku 0:38 Under public hearing or general business. Karen Smythe 0:40 Has everyone had a chance to take a look? I'll Melkorka Kjarval 0:44 take Karen Smythe 0:46 a motion to accept the minutes. Frances Uku 0:48 I just had I just had two notes actually on the on the on the minutes from the 22nd So so there was the the resolution that we did pass 28 for the for the authorizing the temporary interfund advance, and we had the in three in the third operative with no interest unless required by law. But now we have established from council that Karen Smythe 1:19 as of this afternoon, yes, Frances Uku 1:20 yeah, as of this afternoon. So my only question was if if we just had a confirmation from the treasurer that that is in fact like unless required by law is now. Karen Smythe 1:34 Is that different than the minutes? No, the minutes say unless required by law. Frances Uku 1:38 Yeah. Karen Smythe 1:38 So the the minutes wouldn't change. Frances Uku 1:40 No, no, I'm not trying. I'm not talking about changing the minutes. It's the confirmation of the resolution that we passed. This resolution is fine. It's just that we do have, unless required by law. But now we know that it's required. You want Karen Smythe 1:52 to do that as an agenda item because that sounds like a discussion question. I was going to say it's not related to the minutes because it doesn't change the minutes. Frances Uku 1:59 Yeah, I wasn't trying to change the minutes. I was just saying that this is something. That's why Melkorka Kjarval 2:03 we're clarifying. This is about the minutes. Karen Smythe 2:06 So you had a note about the minutes, and this doesn't. Your your note is really about a few things about the future. It doesn't change the minutes. Do you have a? Do you have an? You said you had a second comment about the minutes. Frances Uku 2:18 It's just that resolution 41 is is no longer valid. Again, based on this is also Karen Smythe 2:23 irrelevant to the passing of the minutes for this particular situation. So, does anybody have any comments related to the way the minutes are written based on the meeting that we have? Okay, I'll take. May I have a motion to accept the minutes? Aye. Thank you. Second. Second. Craig, that was you. Yeah. Great. All in favor? Frances Uku 2:53 Aye. Aye. Karen Smythe 2:54 Great. Thank you. Okay. The next item is the acceptance of the agenda. Does anybody have any items they would like to either add or take off the the agenda? Perry Allen 3:07 As a very brief note, I would just like to do a quick celebration of some of the almost heroes of the day outside of our accident that happened. Just from the top, it'll just take a second. Melkorka Kjarval 3:19 Yep. I want to share this brochure, but it doesn't need to. I can. It's just a copy that I'm going to give to everybody. Karen Smythe 3:30 Why don't you do that under your reports rate and get your report? Anything else? Frances Uku 3:38 Yeah, I just had one thing about the something to add. So I took a look at the zoning and planning report, and therein there is a complaint about two complaints related to lawn and property maintenance. And I just wanted some clarification on the process. Like, what does this mean? Who does this come into? What does complaint mean? Are we talking about a citation or fine, or I just I would like to talk Karen Smythe 4:04 about that at the at the moment of the report. Frances Uku 4:09 Is Marybeth DeFilippis 4:09 that right? Frances Uku 4:10 Sure, but but it's not the report. It's a question about use fees, so that's that's the agenda item that I would be thinking about discussing. Is because I don't want to. This is a monthly. It's a trustees report, but this is something about about business. Karen Smythe 4:30 Okay. So, describe again what it is you'd like to speak about. Frances Uku 4:34 About the lawn property maintenance use fees. I mean, the fee schedule. Like this particular when we when we approved the fee schedule, we had talked about how lawn property maintenance citations would you know are once in a you know very rare type of thing. But then there are two here, and I just want to understand what these complaints are. Karen Smythe 4:59 Okay, I can tell you that aside from what's in the report, I okay take that as a no. Perry Allen 5:07 If I move, yeah, please keep going. Karen Smythe 5:10 Okay, okay. So the now we're on to general business, and so Perry, if you would like to, Perry Allen 5:18 I don't have any official thing written, but I just would be remiss to not take a moment to point out that I had been notified that there was an emergency happening in the middle of the village, and that there was a situation. And so I left my studios just come see what it was, and I saw what I had found out later was within a couple minutes. Our first responders, I saw Sergeant Sterret right there at this horrible accident that had happened, and then later learned that even outside of the call of duty, our public works officer Jake Smith was also once again a hero for another reason. Was immediately there on the scene, and it felt very important to just take a moment to really celebrate that call to action because I thought it was really remarkable. Karen Smythe 6:06 Appreciate you bringing that up because our our police department does a terrific job, and it was literally right out here, and and we also had the Red Hook the Red Hook Fire Company, Empress Ambulance. I believe the New York State troopers came to aid in traffic control because the the road was closed down for I think about an hour, and yeah, that was that was a Frances Uku 6:35 quite a day for sure. Yeah, we're Karen Smythe 6:36 very yes. So here, here, thank you for bringing it up. Frances Uku 6:41 Please, may I share also a shout out to to on this same topic that I just happened to see from someone in the community. I I won't say their name, but and it's just it's just wonderful. I would like to show my appreciation for the Red Hook community for the courage and compassion they showed to my in-laws during a tragic accident that occurred on Friday. I would like to thank Burnett and White Funeral Home, the firefighters, the EMT workers, New York State troopers, Red Hook police, barracks, and all that was involved who worked hard to save my in-laws. I'd like to also thank Jake Smith, Dave Schwartz, Patrick Troy, Bruce Troy. Without you guys jumping in with no hesitation, they may not be here still fighting today, and I want to give a heartfelt thank you to Tiffany Troy for reaching out to my family and letting us know. My in-laws were never alone during this nightmare. We cannot thank you, all of you, enough. People like you let me know they're still good in this world. We sincerely thank you. So I wanted to share that. Thank you. Karen Smythe 7:41 Okay. Next item on the agenda is Lieutenant Hildenbrand. We asked him to come and talk about e-bikes because we have had several in the area, and people have had comments in both directions. So, figured we'd give you an opportunity. You may have to turn that on the microphone. Not that you need Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 8:03 it. Up is on. Karen Smythe 8:06 And then you just start speaking, and it should start speak should start working. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 8:09 Oh well, I can speak with that. It's fine if you want. So up is on, but upside on. Okay. I appreciate everybody having me. For everybody at home who doesn't know me? My name is Pat Oldenbreen. I'm a lieutenant by the police department. Been here. I've been with the Red Police Department for 20 years. It's been a while. So when it comes to different kind of you know new updates, different kind of laws, any kind of speed issues, I can turn it a little bit, just like the champion over the two. We're gonna go over a couple things. I'm gonna go over the e-bikes, and then e-dirt bikes, which is a big difference. There's a lot of new laws in New York State. Most of us have seen throughout whether we're walking around the village, whether we're driving around the village. We've seen a lot of our youth on e-bikes. Sometimes a complaint you see a lot on social media wheeling down the road, down the center line, maybe even in the traffic lane on main roads, Route Route Nine, Route Nine Glen Ave, etc. The laws in New York State are very strict when it comes to e-bikes. I've had a tremendous amount of conversations with parents of kids who want e-bikes and kids who actually have e-bikes. Knock on wood, we haven't had any real serious auto accidents here in the village with e-bikes. But I will tell you, in my 20 years, that's only a matter of time. Unfortunately, with our youth. So in New York State, as you can kind of see, I did a little bulletin up there. I know it's hard to read from the back, so I'll kind of go over each thing. You know, in the first box in the top left, to ride an e-bike, you have to be 16 years of age or older. Now, an e-bike is considered a pedal assist e-bike, so you have to have operational pedals that pedal it. So a lot of those e-bikes, the pedaling actually will charge the battery, and it also has a throttle where it's a it's the it's an assist, right? So it's called that's why it's called a pedal assist. 16 years or older, right? You have to have a helmet in certain areas. Helmets aren't mandated, but they're highly recommended. But you still have to follow the rules of the road. Technically, in the village, by village code, you can't ride a bicycle on the sidewalk. In my 20 years, I've never had a problem with a someone who's a youth or an adult riding a pedal bike on a sidewalk. If they have to get out of somebody's way, someone who's handicapped, you have to have full accessibility. That's never been a problem. I would rather see a kid on the sidewalk than in the road with traffic, from my standpoint. When it comes to e-bikes, they're incredibly fast and they get to speed very quickly. So e-bikes can travel the ones that are legal. I've seen class one, class two, class three. You can kind of see them there. The pedal assist go 20 miles an hour, 25 miles an hour. Those are the ones that are legal if you're 16 years or older. Now I do see we have a lot of obviously college students that live in Red Hill. A lot of them ride e-bikes. A lot of them ride e-scooters. They don't have vehicles. It's a good form of transportation. It's legal. Most of them in college, are 18 years old, 19 years old. It's legal for them to ride them. We're also not wheeling on the road. I do see there's a percentage of youth in our school, in our in our town. A lot of kids ride their bikes to the middle school and the high school that are e-bikes, but they're not legal e-bikes or lease or e-scooters. They're e dirt bikes. So the next, I don't the next slide, Claire. So the e dirt bikes are a completely different class of hydrogen. Are completely different class of bike. Those bikes go 40, 5060, miles an hour, and those are only allowed off road. But I would say 95% of the kids who have e-bikes, they're e-dirt bikes. They're completely illegal. You have to have operational for one for it to be legal. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 12:10 An e-bike, you have to have operational pedals, not aftermarket that just stick to it. They have to actually work. Obviously, that has the capability of going over 40 miles an hour. One of the biggest things with the e-bikes and the e-scooters or the e-dirt bike you see in the road, you must know the rules of the road. Same rules apply as a vehicle: stop signs, red lights. You have to do your which way you're turning. You can get the same traffic ticket that you can as a motor vehicle. Now, for the parents, and obviously this is a last resort, and it's not something this police department wants to do. Our job is discretionary when it comes to traffic tickets, right? Everybody's been pulled over. People have gotten a ticket. People have gotten a break on tickets, right? It's discretionary. I've used the same rule when it comes to e-bikes for parents. We've stopped the kids. We've warned them once, warned them twice. What we do now is we have them call their parents because everybody has a cell phone. Make the parents come down and take the bike home on a car or a truck, whatever it might be, and we warn them: can't ride a new highway. If this continues, the parents can be held liable. Now, if you have a juvenile who's under the age of 16, and they're riding a legal e-bike in the road, and you don't take my kindness seriously and say, "Hey, okay, maybe take a time out. If they continue to do it, a parent can be arrested for endangering the welfare of a child, right? So it's an arrestable offense outside of traffic tickets, outside of technically an unregistered motor vehicle, no motorcycle license, no insurance, right? All these things outside of speeding, you know, if you didn't use the proper signals. I have a 13-year-old. She wants one of these. She won't be getting one of these because she doesn't know the rules of the road, and she's not old enough, right? All these kids want them. It's a real popular thing right now, and I understand they're fun. They look like a ton of fun, but if anybody out is watching it or watches this, right, who has 11, 12, 13 year olds, it might disagree with me because I have had parents disagree. Our your kid, when you're 16 years old, you go and get a driver's permit with the DMV. You have to have a permit for so long, then you get a driver's license, and you have to go through a road test. You read the manual. We all read through the manual, right? And we read it. Kids who are 11, 12 years old, we we have to fight to get them up for school on time. They don't know right aways. They don't know who has a right of way, who doesn't, proper ways to signal where to stop. They're kids. They don't know it. Unless you have a piece of property where you can ride that thing around in the woods and in the field, all the power to you, right? You cannot operate them on a public highway. So it's been a big topic. I get a tremendous amount of phone calls, emails, tags on social media about these. A lot of parents are very for them. I get it. They probably spent a lot of money on it, but they are illegal. We cannot allow it. We can't turn a blind eye to it. It's a major liability. So just Karen Smythe 15:09 and just to clarify, it's a state law. Frances Uku 15:12 It's a state law. We Karen Smythe 15:13 cannot preempt a state law. Correct. Yeah. So if if we wanted to, we can't change the law for the village of Red Hook. Correct. This is through the Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 15:21 vehicle and traffic law through the DMV on the DMV website. This is a New York State vehicle and traffic law. This is not a red police village village or red hope like you you can't do this or you can do it. We don't. Speaker 1 15:33 Whenever you're finished, can you explain the difference between an electric dirt bike motorcycle and a gas dirt bike? Yeah, so Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 15:45 I mean a gas so a gas dirt bike technically can be registered and insured on a public highway because it has a title, and when you buy that, it has a title, right? So if you go and buy a motorcycle, you buy it with a title. A dirt bike is considered a motorcycle. Sometimes you see people riding dirt bikes. You see a lot of ATM people like them. You can register and insure them. That you cannot register and insure That is you buy that. There's no there's no title. There's no right. It's it's it's a fee dirt bike that is not legal in New York State to be registered or insured on any long island. Obviously, illegal for anybody under the age of 15. So even if so, the pedal assist, even the ones that are legal, you have to be 16 years or older. You can't be even if it's on a sidewalk, you can't you can't have the pedal assist. Adults can obviously have those. You know, anybody college students you see them a lot. They have those. It's an easy form of transportation without buying a car when you move out of state. E-scooters, same rules, right? So e-scooter, you have to be over the age of 16. They're cool. A lot of people use them for camping, things like that. They're a good form of transportation. I know I've seen a student come, a college student comes by my house with a e-scooter, seeing back and forth. Must be living in the village, going to school with backpack on. But they're of age, and they have they have to have operational headlights, tail lights. All those things have to be operational to operate them on the highway. A lot of rules to them. A lot of lot of real specific things. But the biggest thing is the youth operating them on main road, wheelies in the center of the road, down the center line. One one mistake. One mistake. If you ever come the other way, which obviously none of us want. So, please, I'm glad I had this meeting. You know, I'm willing to obviously have other ones. If anybody watching this, you know, parents want to come in, I can obviously explain to them a little more detail. Melkorka Kjarval 17:55 I have a question just about this infographic. So it says on the e-bike, it says still illegal for anyone 15 and under on electric motorbikes it says illegal for anyone 15 and under. Does that mean Karen Smythe 18:05 still illegal? Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 18:06 Illegal. Melkorka Kjarval 18:07 It says still illegal. So basically it's saying that that you can't do it if you're younger, but it's illegal for anyone 15 and older on on the Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 18:15 still illegal for anyone 15 and under on the on you talk about the public. Karen Smythe 18:20 So you can electric motorbike, but you so an eternal site. If you are off road, someone else's property. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 18:28 I mean, technically, technically yes, it's illegal. So if you're okay, if you're 15 and under, you can't even own that. A parent can't buy it for you. Okay, you can't go off road. I'm saying if you currently already own one, and you're sitting on, and you're on your mom and dad's backyard, and you're driving around, that's your business. I mean, legally, you can't own it. But the mom and dad can get arrested if anything goes wrong. In danger. I mean, it's one offense. Obviously, it's extreme part of it, right? But you can be in danger, in charge of danger, go out for a child. And the biggest thing is the traffic tickets, right? We would write the traffic tickets before that, unless it was continuous, over and over and over, and you were just kind of doing what we were saying. Then you have to be held accountable, right? Most of these kids are not riding by themselves. 234, kids come over. You allow them on your property, right? Might tell people to do, but it's a liability. I have kids that we've stopped, and I say kids-they're kids at 12, 13 years old that come from Spring Lake Road. They come off Oriole Mills, Norton Road, Yance Road. I mean, they're just buzzing down 199, going down 9G, coming up Route 9 from riding back right down the main road. There's cars coming. It's just as parents, we can't allow it, and as the police department, we can't allow it. So we want our kids to have fun. We want them to enjoy themselves. But I also don't want to go to a vehicle fatality. Unfortunately, my career has done many of them, and they are not fun. So that is the last thing you do. So my job is to put things in place and enforcement to prevent that. Karen Smythe 20:04 We will be putting these two infographics on on the police page on the on the village's website. Okay, next item. Speaker 2 20:17 Did you have a question? Karen Smythe 20:18 Did somebody else have a yeah? Oh, go ahead. Marybeth DeFilippis 20:20 Your point about these diversification as the rules are already. Are there any discussions about having them have to pass a you know other driver's permit? Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 20:36 No, no, because you can't operate this till you're 16 anyway. Marybeth DeFilippis 20:40 Right. So when they're 6G, likely a driver, learner's permit. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 20:45 Yeah. If you maybe you're saying if they never want a car, they just want to ride an e-bike. What the rules are? Not that I know of. I think once you're 16, I think you're you know you're a young adult. Some you know I think you're a little more mature to understand the operation of it, so maybe that's why the state puts it in place. These are all state rules, and these are all just guidelines that I follow and obviously educate myself on. This became such a problem in the county. Last touch on this that there was there was a large training and meeting for all law enforcement across the board of the entire county at the 911 center last year, just because became such a problem. So these are all just training things that come from the state. Everything travels down that path to us. We train our people, and then in my job, I try to educate, you know, parents, our residents, just so no one has to deal really with having on them. But I understand they're fun and people look awesome. Yeah, I would Karen Smythe 21:46 assume the notion is at 16 you can get your learner's permit, and so that's an opportunity to learn the rules. Yeah. Maybe do you think they'll ever? I mean, you can't speculate whether dirt bikes might start having titles on them or something. I Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 21:58 don't think so. I mean, I don't. I don't. As of right now, they're not. You know, in other states, like there's some people that use these. In other states, like Montana, it's called Dirt Legal. You go online, you can pay $500 and you can register your four wheeler, and they put insurance and license plates on them. And next thing you know, you see somebody driving down the road. You pull them over. I said, "No, I'm registered in Montana. That doesn't that doesn't work in New York State, right? So just because you're registered there, you can't drive it here. So there is some states that allow this on their public highways. Those big razors you see, you can legally drive down the road, just not here. But there's sites that you can pay a fee. Some people think if they register there, they can write them here. We've had that too. So just education. Karen Smythe 22:48 Okay. Next item. You want the summary? Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 22:54 Yeah. Just do do the first page of it. Yeah. So I'll be I'll be clarke on this. Obviously, for the most part, if you haven't, we have a speed trailer. Our speed trailer collects very specific data. You have the point before that. This one. Marybeth DeFilippis 23:10 This one. Yeah. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 23:11 Our speed trailer collects very specific data, right? So when residents have complaints, can you go just scroll down to the bottom. Yeah, there you go. The stats. So, residents, right? We live in the village. A lot of times, we're outside mowing our lawn, walking our kids, right? We go out on why I walk my dog in the village. Car driving by you feels fast. 20 feels fast. 20-five feels fast. 30 feels like 50, so I will deploy the speed trailer and problem areas if I can get complaints from residents. I know Perry and I spoke briefly just about some things he's getting from different residents, and a lot of times the public and the board members will get things that I might not get, which obviously I want to know so I can put it out and just get some real data. So we put I put the speed trailer on two different spots on Fifth Street. Fifth Street's a tough road, kind of a little bit of a blind turn, going there around the corner. There, it's a narrow road, especially for walkers, which we all know. So I put there two different times. I put it there in June 15th to June 22nd, right? And then I just deployed it July 8 through the 13. I took it in today because I wanted to have actual data two different times. The first time I had it facing the radar on the speed trailer facing east, and then the last week I had it, it was facing west. Right, just like it on both directions. Good question came up with the speed trailer out. I want to clarify an email I got from a resident saying the speed trailer is too far away from the turn. You got to move it up closer. The speed trailer, if I put it on Linden Avenue, I can catch it a mile away, all the way down to the sharp turn by where the farm is. So I can get it at a very far distance. So you want it in positions where people won't see it, okay? Because we're going to slow down. You're not going to get real data. So you got to put it in a position. By the time they come around it, it's already picking it off. It does not issue tickets. It does not have a camera. It does not pick up your license plate. Put data in the system. It's not. It's a radar like a police car has a radar. Same destination tickets. It just collects data that tells me how what times of the day are the busiest, how much traffic went on that road in a five six day period, what are the highest speeds, what are the slowest speeds, what are the average. So we'll go over that kind of bottom left the speed statistics square. So this is the Karen Smythe 25:43 June data, by the way. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 25:45 That's fine. I'll do June data. Thank you. I appreciate it. So the June data, right? Closed speed limit is 30. There, the the at or under the limit was 2,754 cars. So total, prior to that, total vehicles between the 15th and the 22nd were 2,841 cars traveled on that road, coming west. Karen Smythe 26:12 And that was five days, right? Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 26:13 Correct. Just over five days, six days. I took it in. I didn't do the data till the following day, but six days it was out. Out of the 2,841 vehicles, 2,754 of them were under the speed. So you have 87 out of out of almost 3,000 vehicles. 87 were over. The average speed was 22.48. The pace range was 20 to 29 miles an hour, number and pace 2,100. So if you look at the next ones, there's number of the number right tee and speed limit. The 30 plus there's 80 cars, 40 plus zero, 50 plus zero right. So it's 3% So 97 percent of vehicles were under the speed limit. From my perspective, that's not a speeding issue coming from that direction. So I swapped it and then went the other direction, which was recently. So those were a little bit better stats, right? So 98.13% of vehicles were under the speed limit. Again, 2,677 vehicles traveled that road in the opposite direction between that time period. 2,627 of them were under 50 were over. The average speed was 19 miles an hour. Now that is catching them because I test, I put it out, and then I go and do it because I want to come around a turn and see if it picks me up right away. So when I come around and turn the speeds on this, it's picking me up, and I haven't set. If you're too fast, it flashes red and blue police lights at you, right? It tells you to slow down. But based on the stats, right? So 50 up to 1.86 percent of people were over the speed limit. So in my opinion, based on that data there for the two different weeks, so it's not a major speed issue there. The 3000 if we had 50 vehicles, and there's almost 3,000 vehicles. 50 are so you see the 30 plus. There was 47, 40 plus. I will say there was three vehicles that went over 40 miles an hour on that road. Three. So my opinions were too many, but the majority of the speeds when you talk about a speeding problem are there. Now I'm going to deploy that on Linden Avenue. I think this chart's going to be much different the next time I come back to you. But what fish fish by the BMW? Yeah, you did on both ends. So if I go to the next slide, just to give you some idea what kind of data this collects, and I won't bore you with any more of it. So, yeah, this data here is this is the speed volume chart, right? So on the bottom is the speed. So the bottom number is the speed, right? 2526 and the the the left number is the volume, right? So you see 200 cars that kind of stay in that 25 mile an hour range. If you look on the bottom, the very small graph that become red. What this chart does is green is good speeds. Red, orange, red's the worst. Orange, you know, obviously below that. So you only have a couple on this graph that are in that 30 to 35 miles. Only a couple cars, maybe 15, 20, 35. That's where the 50 never comes in. So the next green, it's a pretty smart machine. If you go the next one, Karen Smythe 29:35 this one. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 29:36 Go the nope. This this chart. Karen Smythe 29:39 One. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 29:40 You have one there. Karen Smythe 29:41 I have this one from June. No, that's not it. Hold on. This one. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 29:48 Yeah, that one. Yep. So this one is a summary, right? So this one will give you what our busiest days are. Now, believe it or not, our busiest days seem to be Thursday, Friday, not not a Saturday. So our busiest days are Thursdays and Fridays, and that's how you really collect real data, right? Like what amount of vehicles on that specific road was the busiest times. So if you look, I get the opposite one. So this one, that's the June. It's the June one. Karen Smythe 30:13 That's the June one. Okay, Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 30:14 I'm the July one. Sorry. So in the June one, you can even see, right? So you see, like on Friday, it's 490. It's 490. Thursday is 469. And now in July this is 5600. This is like low five. So these two days seem the busiest days. But what it does is it clocks the time of the day. And you would think it's work traffic, right? But on Thursdays and Fridays the busiest times of the day are that noon, 123, o'clock, right? 52. 50-two. Speaker 3 30:43 Yep, Friday was a federal Thursday, so people heading into a yeah. So weekend. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 30:49 It helps collect real data. If there's an event or there's something going on, it really collects like how many cars. It's not just picking up the speed. So it gives you good data to look at. Gives the board good data to look at. So if a resident comes in says I have a speeding issue, he said no problem. We'll put the trailer out. I'll get your real data by the next meeting. It's it's a good tool because how many times have we sat here saying, God, I have a speeding issue. There's no speeding issue on that road, and we go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. That's it, right? But there could be on certain times of the day. Obviously, I'll put a car out there if it's you know if we need to issue tickets. Karen Smythe 31:24 Yeah. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 31:25 Put a car. A car. Our cars are very busy, right? Most people don't see it. You know, we have a great community we live in. It's a beautiful land. We do a good job, but our our police department is very busy. You bring up the accident. Very skilled people, and very quick response, and that's that's the key thing to the police department when it comes to speeds, accidents, whatever it might be, domestics, anytime medical emergency. It's it's it's your response time. Response time saves lives, right? I mean, I've been in situations people still deal talking to me about today. Your response time and how fast you get to an emergency saves someone's life, whether whether you agree, disagree with it, whatever the world says to you. When you have an emergency, you want somebody there immediately, and you don't care who it is. And with us here and the skilled people that we have, like I said, Trav happened to be at the light of that accident. I'll kind of touch on that because you guys pointed out a lot of social media, love there. Appreciate everybody that's that's out there. Obviously, state police. We're they're very we work very closely. We work with them. They work with us. Right. We all share information. They help us with the traffic on both ends. To close the road for only an hour on an accident like that, you normally talk about hours, two three hours. Right. To do it an hour, obviously, Travis, the sergeant, is very good at what he does. That car was on fire when that thing rolled over. Two people were in it and trapped. I've been a fire company. I've been 18 years old. There were many vehicle entrapments, and when there's a fire, a lot can happen quick. Car upside down, fuel lines, anything can happen. You have to move quickly. Pat Choy from next door. Herbert came right out. Travis was here. He looked at his time; was 15 seconds from the light to the time he was out. I can see Jake actually parked right here and see him on the back camera. Now I've watched the camera. But that vehicle hit that stone wall at high speed. From obviously still under investigation, but from our preliminary investigation, there was an unknown medical emergency happened inside the vehicle, which does happen often. That's our second auto accident. They have back-to-back days for potential medical stuff. Both of the people are still in ICU. They were critical for a very long time. We obviously still do investigations on it. Our officer starting was down there that night, check-in, you know, doing follow-ups on it. But they hit that at a high rate of speed. Thankfully, college is not in session, right? That that's a pickup bus stop, right? But thankfully, they're alive. Thankfully, it sounds like they have great family. Sounds like they're really nice people, and they're very well loved. But all Fergus Fran did a great job. Travis was there. Pat Troy came out. Pat Troy initially got in the car. He's also a professional fireman, not outside of being a volunteer. Most people don't realize that, but he's actually is a full-time career professional fireman. Started pulling them out. Travis got there, assisted with the pull. A lot of local residents stopped in the camera. I will say this: the one truck that when he came in the oncoming lane almost hit head-on. The guy swore, put his truck reverse, backed up, parked, got out to help. Right. So those are the things that you know. Not everybody knows what to do, but they're willing to lend a hand if you need it. You'd be surprised when you do push a car, move a door. Kind of need some steady hand cell. Karen Smythe 34:46 So just going back to Fisk Street. Yeah. I just did the quick math, and that's about 474 cars a day. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 34:56 Yeah. There's Karen Smythe 34:56 a lot of cars for that car. They're cutting the life. Karen Smythe 34:59 Of course. Yeah. And and that's and that's okay. Yeah, you know it is it's it's available. We just don't want them going fast. But you've identified the fact that there is a speeding issue, but it is a narrow road and it's shared with not just cars but also bikes and and pedestrians and and so we have on order. They should be coming soon to temporary speed humps, and maybe you can just comment on why you think that's also a good. Yeah, you know, I'm Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 35:30 I'm I have mixed feelings on speed humps, but in my opinion, on that road, speed humps I think are important. I think you have to slow a vehicle down, whether they're doing 20 around that turn, you have to slow them down to an almost stop because I've driven that road 1000s of times, and you don't see somebody till they're right on you. We just a few months ago had a DWI on that road where it's going around, turned too fast, hit the fire hydrant, and and fled, we found them, and they were DWI, right? You need the speed humps. Not that that would have prevented that incident, but it slows people down. It gets them mindful of it, and I think on that road, the way that turn is situated, you need two speed humps to slow them down. You can't stay going around the corner. Speaker 1 36:20 Right. Melkorka Kjarval 36:21 Is it? Would you mind if we were to make these available? This kind of data to the public, like oh yeah, Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 36:28 yeah. This this data is this data is open to the public, so I think people living on the road will probably want to like. I'm sitting here firing through this briefing this. Yeah. But if you really sit and look at it, you kind of really get educated on like what the real speeds are, how many cars actually go on our village streets. Karen Smythe 36:46 So maybe maybe we can think about how, because as you, I mean, you have, I don't know if you have any prior data, but you're getting new data, and so thinking about a way we can organize that data on our website somehow. Yeah, but the Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 36:59 old data has old. We had a problem with the speed trailer. The radar was broken. Jake, help me fix it. Because the company that actually is custom signals is in California, and they have no way to come here. Yeah. They're like, no, take it apart. I'm like, yeah. No idea what I'm talking about. So Jake helped me figure it out. We fix it. So this new data will be the newest data. Great. We'll be opening that room tonight for a couple days, and I'll keep bouncing it around different streets, and I'll give everybody the data. Karen Smythe 37:28 That's what I'm thinking with different streets. It's just thinking about how to organize it. So I Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 37:34 organize it in a folder, right? I have a speed trailer folder, and in this has a separate app. It's it's and it gives me two options. I can upload raw data, and I upload existing data. In the existing data tab, it specifically states Fifth Street, Elizabeth Street, Fifth Street, Route Nine. So you can say, hey, in six months now, can I have that data from an avenue? Can I just go back up and just? It's always it's in the folder. Great, Karen Smythe 38:02 great. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 38:03 Any other questions on that? Melkorka Kjarval 38:06 I just love the data. I love a chart. I know you do. I do. I know. I know you love charts. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 38:11 It's good information. Like I said, I mean, obviously, it's this is one piece of. I do this, so I don't. I'm not bogging down the patrols with calls and stuff, but appreciate everybody's time. Thank you. Melkorka Kjarval 38:25 That one thing you share with the board about how you are certified to be able to identify a car that drives by you. Yeah, sure. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 38:31 So we've been on that before. Yeah. So like every police officer in New York State, obviously, is you have to be certified in what's called radar and lidar. Lidar, you see the commercials with the fake GOP with the laser gun-that's a lidar, right? A lidar gun. We have one. We don't. We don't. I really don't deploy it much. So to be certified in New York State, we go to the police academy, and obviously extensive training afterwards. You have to be certified on radar and lidar. What that incorporates is obviously you have to go through a series of tests for the radar in the vehicle. Obviously, the radars in the cars. Most people don't know they have to be serviced up in Albany by DCJS every six months. We have tuning forks that they have to be taken out of the vehicle. All the wiring. They all have to go to Albany, be certified because we go trial on on speed cases. Basically, speed ticket, go trial on it, and you have to be certified. We all we are also certified, not just watching a radar gun that's certified by New York State that tells us doing 57, 47. We're certified visually, right? So we can visually observe a vehicle and say the vehicle comes out. That vehicle's doing 37, and you can't just guess. You have to go through a series of testing while you're there. So you have an instructor with you. You see vehicles come, and they give you. And there's a large number of vehicles that you have to have a large percentage accurate to be certified. So you can technically issue a ticket based on observation too. So that's why a lot of times my V1 is different. I'll sit there and be like, "That car's doing 20. That car's doing 50. You know, it feels like I've been on the road where I'm like, I kind of get shocked like a car's flying, but they're probably not. It just feels wild fast because you're on. And some areas, they are speeding, right? Like town, I was, you know, fella Newmark, they fly on that road, right? So we might allow tickets there when we're in the town. But any roads in the village, any concerns? Obviously, anybody watching, send me an email. I love to pop it around, and then I'll give you the data for you. Do you have some stats on it? Perry Allen 40:35 Amazing. All Speaker 3 40:36 right. So Karen Smythe 40:37 before you go, our next item is we'll be discussing credom, and I just want to give you an opportunity to share your two cents on that. Perry Allen 40:46 If I could just ask a quick question about the speeding one thing before we move on. Just in terms of getting it placed in different streets, it's at the moment contacting you directly, and then eventually will it be this committee that we're with the pedestrian advocacy, or I'm just curious into that. No, Karen Smythe 41:02 no. The idea is we were going to maybe try to come up with a criteria so that you don't get 12 requests for 12 different students. Well, I put them in Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 41:10 line, right? I mean, I can't. I get to you when I can, right? If there's a liaison on the board, it goes through them and they go to me. Listen, I have people. I know everybody, right? So they're like, "Hey, can we, you know, have a problem over here? And I'll put it out there, right? I don't feel I'll get bombarded by it by village residents. Everybody's wants it, but I'll get to eventually. Most of these back streets here, it's more of a stop sign issue than a speed issue. So if you really think about it, there's only certain streets where you really could get up to a speed, Benner Road at a speed, London Avenue, Park Avenue potentially. There's only certain streets where you really can get to speed. Most of our streets have a stop sign. You only go so much, so it's more of a stop sign as you're going to speed. So either way, with deploying it and putting it out, the keys are easy to lose. The tool, the finger. I don't mean anybody else deploying it. Obviously, that's not a year for you. This Melkorka Kjarval 42:08 is for people applying for Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 42:09 it. So here's here's Karen Smythe 42:11 here's what I'm going to suggest is that you go ahead and and email Patrick directly, but just copy me so that I'm aware. Yeah. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 42:18 The way you're doing it, I think, is great. Like the record hours, and I'm so many people are talking. Karen Smythe 42:24 And I would say for the general public, if they want to send an email into info at redhookvillage.gov, and then we can disperse it from there. Yeah, Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 42:32 I get emails from everybody, so it's. I don't think I'll get bombarded with my request on it, honestly. Frances Uku 42:38 Oh no, if you like data, so freedom. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 42:42 be very fran is gas station heroin. Highly decorative. It's very dangerous. I am not a fan of it. It's legal. I know. I know from in my years of doing this, working with a lot of different drug task force, having a lot of friends who are in high levels of drug task force. Kratom is I don't know how it's legal, but it is. It's highly addictive. I know many people have been on it. Can't get off. I know people that have been on opiates that clean, and also have gone on kratom and have had a much harder time getting off of kratium, kratom than they did actual heroin or any kind of you know scheduled two narcotic opiate. Incredible. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 43:28 I'm educated on it. I know that world very well. Obviously, I'm not involved in that that world anymore. But I worked very closely with a lot of drug task force for many years. We have a great village in town, but people sell drugs all over. Frances Uku 43:40 Me too. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 43:41 It's you know it's a market of opportunity. And just Karen Smythe 43:45 just a quick question for clarification, Fran, you had in your in your document that so kratom is a derivative of seven dash OH. I'm not. That wouldn't be how Craig Rothstein 43:58 you would say that. Seven OH would be seven hydroxy nitrogenine, which is a compound in kratom is a plant, which comes from Southeast Asia, and it was the DEA reversed its judgment on kratom a couple of years ago because people were using it to mitigate the effects of withdrawal from opiates. Correct. There's a very big difference in this. This has come up in other areas of drug control law where there's a sliding scale determining a drug versus a plant, and so seven hydroxymetrixionine would be much closer to like a pure drug because it's only present in very small amounts in the raw plant material, so when you have something like I know some of the gas stations and they advertise it pretty loudly that they sell kratom and they sell the plant material that's powdered and put into capsules or whatever it is, that would contain trace amounts of seven hydroxymitrie, which is the psychoactive component. When you're dealing with straight mitragynine, that that becomes more close to a purified, distilled drug, and that's I think where I would I would suggest, and I only see their preliminary information on this, but this is very close to my area of expertise. That would probably have much more severe health concerns and dangers than the plant material, which itself is highly. Lieutenant Hillburn is absolutely right; it's very addictive, and I've read anecdotal reports on it, and it it seems to be quite frightening. But at the same time, like I said, the feds were reluctant to completely make it illegal or to to make it Schedule One because it has some apparent health benefits and it has some apparent effect for people who are trying to stop taking that week. Correct. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 45:51 Yeah. So and right. So I'm asked to say that again. I'm coming to you. Karen Smythe 45:56 And so something that we had, we asked our village attorney about it, and apparently there's a very new state law that was passed, I think June 1617, that regulates that regulates like you can't you can't use it if you're under 21, you can't buy it, and there's some the packaging, Frances Uku 46:21 the labeling, Karen Smythe 46:23 and there's I think there's labeling, but also advertising, and so we'll have our discussion. But I just also wanted to flag for you. Yeah, I think, and I think Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 46:32 correct me if I'm wrong. All right, there's some municipalities and villages or towns throughout the state that are starting to address that. Karen Smythe 46:39 So there were some counties that have outright banned it. There's one village that has, but based on this brand new law, in the initial conversation with our village attorney, it doesn't appear that we could legally ban it from the village. We may be able to put some parameters around it, but we couldn't do it in such a way that we're trying to ban it, but sort of faking it, so it's because of this new law. If this new law weren't in place, then we probably could. But things have just changed. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 47:08 With that question, I'll end this. I I I have recently gotten some positive feedback about our our vending machine out here by the information booth. Frances Uku 47:16 Correct. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 47:17 People have found it very helpful. He's a very close friends of mine work at Drug Task Force. Are all investigators for their you know respected agencies. I mean, you have highs and lows in overdoses. City of McKenzie, you know, overdoses recently have been incredible. There was 10 in one day. So unfortunately, everything's being laced right with fentanyl, cocaine, everything across the board. So, from different channels, I've gotten positive feedback. Karen Smythe 47:46 I I actually add to my report. We've had significant use of it, and actually higher than any other machine they have in the county. Yeah, yeah. Great. Thank Frances Uku 47:59 you, Patrick. Karen Smythe 48:01 Okay. So the next item is this discussion of kratom, and so I think. Yeah, Frances Uku 48:06 thank you. It started off really great already. The Karen Smythe 48:09 new information about about that is it doesn't appear that we will be able to ban it in the village because of this new law. Craig Rothstein 48:20 Can I just add? It's a very preliminary glance from me because I didn't see this until now. Is that the the extra the seven hydroxymetry gan? Frances Uku 48:31 Yes. Craig Rothstein 48:32 Is was classified Schedule One by the DEA just days ago. Most highly restricted under drunk control, which means that should supersede any law, so the plant might not be able to be regulated at local levels quite as strictly as we might like. Yeah, but the extra for that product absolutely should fall under any drug control structure. Frances Uku 48:56 Agreed. Karen Smythe 48:57 So, if I might suggest, I don't think there's any argument that we this is not a good substance, and certainly the the sort of the far end of the spectrum we we really don't want to have here. Well, Craig Rothstein 49:10 it's a it's always a complicated question. I mean, I think a lot of the problems that we see right now, especially with 1000s of new psychoactive chemicals being pushed all over the world. Those-it's a very complicated political social history. But really, if there was had never been a war on drugs, we might not have that problem. So I would-I would go. I would go, and this is more in my academic background. I would lean towards going lighter on the plant, like the plant itself. I don't know that that is such a socially harmful substance. Frances Uku 49:53 It's also not on the the Craig Rothstein 49:54 x the the the distillate or the the compound that's being taken out of the plant. That's a problem. Frances Uku 50:01 Yes. Karen Smythe 50:02 So what I might suggest is that we start by getting getting the law, and understanding what it says, and make sure that that the I mean I I know of one location for sure that sells it to make sure that they are complying with the new law. Absolutely. I mean I think that's sort of the first step, and then after that I think we can have a further discussion. Is there anything else that we could do or should do as a village to make the distinction? Frankly, is to say, is is there something? And and I I don't know, but I would assume that there's some element of that in the labeling related to the law. Perry Allen 50:38 I remember as well the attorney had brought up that we could do something where certainly be sold zoning with proximity to schools and churches, et cetera, like that. Also take that route as well if we wanted to. Marybeth DeFilippis 50:49 Yeah, Frances Uku 50:50 which I Perry Allen 50:51 think might be an interesting way Frances Uku 50:53 of addressing some of our concerns about the. And I I did want to mention the reason why I brought it up or put it on the agenda was because it was shared by a constituent, and on the agenda I also included the newspaper articles. So her sister's son died, very bright young man. He died from kratom, believing that it was a safe natural remedy. And so I'm really it's really important that we have this conversation because, one, I promised that I would bring it up, and and it's just it's I'm very gratified to hear both from Trustee Rothstein and from our police sergeant because it's a very oh I'm sorry that's Travis yeah I always get it mixed up Lieutenant okay so Lieutenant and he's sergeant. Okay, thank you. So, so yes, I I really just wanted to gage everyone's appetite for the topic. I thought I knew it to be a really huge problem, but I'm I'm glad to hear, especially from, I mean, the ultimate professional in the about its very severe effects and its devastation. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 52:05 So if Karen Smythe 52:19 you're if you're okay with getting getting further information on the new new law and sort of see where that where that is, and then seeing if there's anything else that we as a village would like to do as it relates to that. That all right? Frances Uku 52:31 Okay, sounds good. Maybe I'll bring it to the workshop and maybe we can we can do some more talking about it. Karen Smythe 52:39 Okay. Next item on the agenda is the property taxes report. I believe this is just reading the report. Property taxes due 1,000,460-5214 and dollars and seven cents. And apparently, due to rounding, Dutchess County calculated amount and the amount village will ultimately collect is slightly higher than the warrant amount, slightly higher by seven cents. I think if someone pays cash and they don't have a penny, it rounds one way or the other, or rounds up. I think re-levy amount due $19,918 Total amount due 1,000,480-5130-$2.07 330-$2.07 Property taxes: the total number of parcels that we have are 760-three Property taxes received to date: 1,000,330-6850-$3.30-three cents. No penalties or finance charges received. Accounts receivable outstanding to the village as of July one, 140-8270-$8.70-four cents. Number of parcels outstanding 70-six, and that's submitted by Jen Cavanaugh with her hat of tax receiver on. So the next item is related to our EV charging stations, Perry Allen 54:02 yeah. Karen Smythe 54:03 So we have had the benefit. So the EV charging stations that we have, we use we use Frances Uku 54:15 ChargePoint. Karen Smythe 54:16 ChargePoint. Thank you very much to service our not service to make our EV charging stations function, and that is, and I believe it was in February that we approved charging a certain amount for for our charging. Absolutely, we need to have a plan, and the town has actually picked up the cost up till now, so we now need to have our own plan. It's not actually an installation; it is it is the service that we need as a plan, and so that's what this is. We have two charging stations, and so each one-it's an annual price, and so it's $715 for each one. So a total of $1,430 I didn't think about the fact that Jen wasn't going to be here to give us any more detail, but I think to change from ChargePoint would be a much bigger expense because it's it's their service that's part of the charging stations. Yes, yes. So I don't know if anybody has any additional information that they know that they'd like to share, or if they'd be open to approving this this proposal. Frances Uku 55:46 I suppose I'm not I'm not sure I understand what cloud what cloud plan what it says links EV chargers to the web. I was curious about that. I don't understand what that means. Karen Smythe 56:00 My understanding, which is limited, is that when someone is charging, it links. It it needs to go through the web because it connects to whoever you are, your your account, and then we have access to that data here at Village Hall or wherever. So we know we know how much is being charged. We know how much how much we will be receiving, and so it's basically the connection from the charging station itself to the whole system. Frances Uku 56:32 Oh, it's like an internet, like your web account, like you pay for like that. Yeah, Karen Smythe 56:38 like cloud, like cloud service. Frances Uku 56:39 Okay, okay. I Speaker 1 56:46 assume so. I am. Karen Smythe 56:49 I'm not clear what the timing is. So if if you all, I I apologize. I should have debriefed with Jen before, right? No need. No need. I, as I say, I don't think there are other options, and I know that Jen would have provided them had there been. Okay. But I don't have I don't have any further backup. So I'm happy to, if you all are comfortable enough to to move forward with this. If not, we can certainly push it to the to the workshop. Melkorka Kjarval 57:16 Workshop, yeah. Do you have to readjust the rates? I know that's not what we're discussing right now. Karen Smythe 57:27 Well, it's the rates that we put in place were never intended to cover the full cost. Yeah, we didn't know the full cost. I'm I'm not sure that we didn't include the the cost Frances Uku 57:40 the town was covering Karen Smythe 57:41 the calculation, but at that time the town was covering that cost of removal. Got it. Okay. But again, I am also open to pushing it to the to the to the workshop if you. Yeah, I think so. Frances Uku 57:57 Yeah. If you make it, I'll I'll second. Yeah. Karen Smythe 58:03 Okay. The next item. So there is is the Hughes Holding easements. So as you see from the letter from our land use attorney, Hughes Holdings of Dutchess LLC, they have received a conditional site plan approval for the construction of a multifamily development and associated improvements, comprised of three two-family dwellings totaling six residential dwelling units, located in the NMU district in the village of Red Hook. It is on Firehouse Lane, and as part of this project, they are required to grant sewer, water, and sidewalk easements to the Frances Uku 58:47 building. And Karen Smythe 58:48 so that is what is in front of us now: is those easements. You have the resolution that would authorize the effectively approves the easements and authorizes me to sign whatever's needed to to effectuate those easements. The one thing that I am going to request that we amend is in the sidewalk easement on page two of the sidewalk easement, item number seven. Frances Uku 59:19 Just one second here. I see water and sewer. Next one. Sidewalk is the Karen Smythe 59:25 last one. Frances Uku 59:25 Sidewalk is the last one. Karen Smythe 59:33 Page two. I got it. Item number seven. So right now it says, in the event grantor shall fail, grantor being Hughes shall fail to timely remove snow and ice as set forth in paragraph six hereof within four hours after receipt written notice to grantor. That's not how we do it for everybody else in the village. So I am going to propose, and then also it says. removal of snow cost reasonable cost. I would like to change that to based on the village fee schedule, and just have it be and not by certified mail or return receipt request, so we're not we're approving the I suppose we're approving easement. So here's the way I'd like to change it: the sentence that says, "In the event grantor shall fail to timely remove snow and ice, as set forth in paragraph six hereof, would like to delete within four hours after receipt, written notice to grantor, and then the next part to remove the snow and ice. Notify the village clerk, who instead of which shall promptly notify the grantor of the and delete reasonable of the cost of removal of snow and ice, based on the village fee schedule, in writing. So adding based on the village fee schedule, deleting by certified mail return receipt request, and then which cost shall be approved instead of certified by foreman of the highway department of the village, and then delete approved by the mayor or village trustee. And the way I'd like to reflect that in the resolution. Well, I guess any questions as it relates to that. Frances Uku 1:01:37 Yes, sorry, I don't have it all. You couldn't Melkorka Kjarval 1:01:42 allow for me to find them within four hours after a seat Melkorka Kjarval 1:01:45 won and a half of them lost. So I Melkorka Kjarval 1:01:48 understand the the what you're saying. It's just Karen Smythe 1:01:50 hard to follow. It's all lined down. Yes, yes. Melkorka Kjarval 1:01:56 There's no map for Speaker 1 1:01:58 us. Frances Uku 1:01:58 That's the next thing I would tell you. There's no Melkorka Kjarval 1:02:00 way for us as lay people. Like, I'm not looking up Frances Uku 1:02:04 these ridiculous log numbers. Melkorka Kjarval 1:02:07 Like, it feels. I don't know where they're asking me to put the sidewalk. Where the issue is for us to have. Frances Uku 1:02:30 I can't see it, so I was hoping. No, I know I Karen Smythe 1:02:33 can. I can. We can. We can move it. Is it? Is it Frances Uku 1:02:38 maps you're pulling in? Karen Smythe 1:02:40 Parcel access. Oh, personal access. Frances Uku 1:02:42 Okay. So, go ahead and Karen Smythe 1:03:00 just. Frances Uku 1:03:12 Oh, great! Karen Smythe 1:03:13 Can you see that? Yeah, thank you. I can, Frances Uku 1:03:14 but hopefully also the guests can also see. But thank you. Speaker 3 1:03:19 So the intention is for the sidewalk to be along Firehouse Lane. Are there sidewalks existing on either side? No, right? No, in parts towards nine. Melkorka Kjarval 1:03:32 But I want to say it won't be meeting any other sidewalk, so we don't know what the design is. No, I know the spot. No. Frances Uku 1:03:37 Okay. Yes, agreed. When you say we don't know what the design Melkorka Kjarval 1:03:40 will be. We don't know if there'll be a snow buffer. We don't know how far that will be set. We don't have any sort of you know. I would if we're going to be doing an easement where we're taking over the sidewalk maintenance. I would like to know that it's going to be. We are not Karen Smythe 1:03:54 taking over the sidewalk maintenance. It is that is not. If you read the easement, it it is basically the easement is allowing the public to walk on the sidewalk. They are maintaining the responsibility of care and maintenance of the sidewalk. Melkorka Kjarval 1:04:09 Okay, I'm sorry because they're not building the sidewalk in the village right away, right? That's like it's Karen Smythe 1:04:14 correct. Well, based based on if these lines are correct, that would be correct. Guys, so they're building on their Melkorka Kjarval 1:04:20 own property. They're going to allow the public to walk across. Yes, I still, I guess I, the control freak in me right now would like to know what that sign is going to be like. Frances Uku 1:04:31 Your control freak. Karen Smythe 1:04:32 So here's a suggestion. Yes. Would you be open to the notion of approving the resolution for the sewer and water, and then we do the sidewalk separately. I would, yeah. Perry Allen 1:04:46 So then they're able to start moving forward infrastructurally in that way. But then we can ensure that we have the right design to code with the sidewalk. Karen Smythe 1:04:53 My my guess is that the conditional site plan approval is conditioned on these three. So they they they definitely need all three, but I would I I would like to move forward with the two over which we have no questions. The village engineer has approved those two. Are we trying to mess Melkorka Kjarval 1:05:13 up their timeline approval? It's taken a Karen Smythe 1:05:15 while to get to get to this point. I think another two weeks isn't going to be the end of the world for the sidewalk. Okay. Okay, Melkorka Kjarval 1:05:23 I mean, I don't, I don't want to miss. If it's going to add like delays to this project, I don't want to do that. I guess Eastman is, but it's. I think it's important. I think it's important. I don't know. I Perry Allen 1:05:33 agree. I think we should be able to confirm, especially if it's. Melkorka Kjarval 1:05:37 But I don't think that we have specifications on how sidewalks are supposed to be built for village. So I don't know that we. We Perry Allen 1:05:46 could use some of the rhetoric that we're developing for. Karen Smythe 1:05:49 I'm not sure that we would because it's not in the code. We could ask, but I don't think we have. I don't. We. I don't. If it's not currently in our code, we can't Frances Uku 1:05:59 apply it. No, we'd have to Karen Smythe 1:06:01 have passed, and we're also looking at a different area, not this area. I think it's great for Melkorka Kjarval 1:06:07 putting a sidewalk in. I think that's wonderful. It's going to be because it is really nice being able to walk up to the firehouse, and you're right. So Craig Rothstein 1:06:15 we walk our dogs there, and it's dangerous, and people fly on that road. Yeah, it's a long stair. It would be nice to to know. Like I totally see the point. I also see the right, and I'd be interested to see what other features are they going to plan for. Are they going to? What are they going to do? Melkorka Kjarval 1:06:31 But that's yeah. That goes into site plan review. As I was going to say, that's Karen Smythe 1:06:35 all been reviewed by the planning board. So so I have two questions. One is we have two ways to go. One is we can approve the water and sewer easement and hold back on the on the sidewalk one, waiting for more. I know their drawings, their site plan. You know they have a site plan. The other is to approve them all. I would like to make the amendment so that the clearing of the snow matches the rest of the village, and then we can have we can have a review of the site plan so that you all are aware of what because I think I think the issue is that if we want the sidewalk to be different, I don't think we really have the jurisdiction at this point to make that change. It doesn't mean we can't ask, but Melkorka Kjarval 1:07:27 but in some ways we do because they need in order for their thing to go through, they have to provide the site plan, right? That's the idea. Yes, yes, that's part of the site plan. So we kind of we're part of the process. We could hold it up and Karen Smythe 1:07:42 sort of the. That's just something I don't know. I don't I don't know what we can do, but but you want to change language anyway, so we will come up maybe with a different draft. Or did you yes would you prefer to pass it and have the just lines in it, and then I am prepared to pass it with the adjustments that I made, which basically makes the snow and ice removal match what we do in the rest of the village, partly because I don't think we, as a board, have the opportunity to change the requirements of the sidewalk. It doesn't mean we can't ask them to make that change, but given that I mean, it it is important. I mean, we all anyone who has a sidewalk that's right next to the road, when it gets plowed, it gets recovered, and then you have to re you have to re-clear it. So if there was a buffer there, it it would it would be better. But I don't. I don't know what the rest of the drawing is. So I think probably our best route is to approve the water and sewer, pull out the sidewalk, and bring that back in two weeks with all of that information. Frances Uku 1:08:53 That would be great. Yeah. The Melkorka Kjarval 1:08:53 thing is because they they say there's a they're referencing a file map. We just didn't get a copy of it, so we got these coordinates right to. To they're just they're Greek to me because I don't have the math. No offense to people of Greek. Frances Uku 1:09:13 They're used to it. Okay, so so Karen Smythe 1:09:15 I'm I'm getting a sense that are we all good if we take the sidewalk and get rid of that? Yes. Frances Uku 1:09:20 Same. Yeah. Okay. Karen Smythe 1:09:21 Yeah. So I'm taking out every reference to the sidewalk in the resolution. That's good. Just cross out sidewalk. Cross out sidewalk easement Perry Allen 1:09:48 and sewer capacity. We're we're primed for this, right? Yeah, Karen Smythe 1:09:52 the village attorney has has confirmed, Melkorka Kjarval 1:09:57 and we could possibly pass it at the the workshop if they. Yes, Karen Smythe 1:10:01 I'm planning to. I will plan to bring it back for the Melkorka Kjarval 1:10:03 workshop. It's not a full month delay. Karen Smythe 1:10:05 So I have crossed out the reference to the sidewalk. So this is a resolution to accept sewer and water main easements from Hughes Holdings of Dutchess LLC. Do I have a motion to approve to move? resolution 30-three. Okay, I have a motion by Mel Corke. Do I have a second? Perry Allen 1:10:32 Second. Karen Smythe 1:10:32 Thank you, Perry. We will do a roll call vote. Craig. Aye. Perry. Perry Allen 1:10:42 Aye. aye. Karen Smythe 1:10:43 Fran, aye. Malcorka, aye. I'm an aye also. Okay, so that's approved. Great. Thank you. Okay, the next item on the agenda is bond resolution and a bond resolution amendment. So we the village board. This is related to the sewer expansion project. We have the village board passed a bond resolution for $20 million which is what the project was estimated to be at the time it was estimated. That was either 2004, 2024. Sorry, the project was estimated to be 20 million dollars. As we are still applying for grants, we asked the village engineer to go back and look at the costs again because we knew that the costs probably, probably, definitely would be higher. We also added. Thank you, Lieutenant. We also added a couple of items, not huge items, but we did add a couple of items. One of which was to add solar panels to the capacity that we can, because we know that there will of the electric use for a wastewater treatment plant is high, and so if there's anything we can do to offset those costs, that seems to make sense. And then the other is to add a receiving station, which means that when a septic tank is pumped out, right now it's pumped out by Superior Sanitation, and they take that to Albany. If we could have it come to our plant, and then we could process it, that would reduce some of our costs. And at certainly early on, it would be possible to consider some receiving some other. other other folks sludge, and we would charge for that. That would be on a very limited basis and on a very particular choice because we we don't we don't want to be in that business. But if we have some clients that we know that we can trust, and we know what's coming in, and we can charge for it. That would be a way to offset some costs as well while we add capacity. So all that to be said, the village engineer has looked at those costs and determined that the project cost is now estimated to be 28 million. We are applying for two grants, and that's actually the next items on the agenda. One is the intermunicipal grant that we are applying with the town, and then the other is the Water Quality Investment Act grant, which is related to water quality, and it's not either or. We can actually get both of these grants, and so this is our opportunity to increase the cost. The grants are a percentage of the project cost, so it just seemed like, given the time, I mean, our first grant application was two years ago, so this bond resolution is is. is a requirement if we are going to apply for grants for a project at a higher cost. It doesn't change if we don't pass this. We still have our $20 million bond resolution. It just means that the project would then be put forth as a $20 million project instead of 28 Hopefully, that's helpful. Anybody have questions, thoughts, comments? Perry Allen 1:14:27 Just to reiterate, since I've also been present for a lot of the sewer meetings, that it has been urged by the engineers, et cetera, to really go for the maximum amount possible, as costs are only going up and construction never gets cheaper. So they really just urged over and over again. Karen Smythe 1:14:51 And I'll also reiterate that this is one step in the process. This is this is not a if we approve this then the project is a complete go. It is a bond resolution that says that if we go with this project, we will we will cover our costs effectively. But there are many other steps before we go. But Frances Uku 1:15:18 you need it, like it's the first Perry Allen 1:15:20 one. Sorry. Frances Uku 1:15:21 No, no, no. I was just agreeing. Yeah. And some Perry Allen 1:15:23 of the additions that are added, like the receiving station from being on the inside, feel like just a really fantastic idea. I think the solar panels are wonderful. It's a wonderful spot for them, and then I think the receiving station is just fantastic because we'll really cut down on our own costs and the capacity to make even just slight revenue to offset expense would be just incredible. So I think it's worth, especially since this could set us up for some other grant funding. Yeah, I think it's really I'm in support of it. Karen Smythe 1:15:54 Okay, with that, I'll take I'll take a motion to. So this would be hang on. This is the extractive minutes resolution. This would be resolution 30-430-four. Yeah, 30-four. I'll take a motion. Frances Uku 1:16:16 So moved. Karen Smythe 1:16:17 Thank you, Fran. Second. Perry Allen 1:16:19 Second. Karen Smythe 1:16:21 Thank you, Perry. You got that right. Okay, and I'll do a roll call on this too. Fran, Frances Uku 1:16:28 aye. Karen Smythe 1:16:29 Perry, Perry Allen 1:16:30 aye. Karen Smythe 1:16:30 Mel Corke, aye. Craig, aye. And I'm an aye as well. Great. Thank you very much. All right. Next item on the agenda is this is to authorize the application for the intermunicipal grant. I think we've had a fair amount of conversation about this particular grant. This is something that the town actually had received a grant a year ago, but an intermunicipal grant, by definition, should be two municipalities, and the town only applied for themselves. So, EFC has requested that we apply together, and so this is authorizing that application. The this is the the exciting part about this grant opportunity is the intermunicipal aspect of it is encouraged, and one of the reasons why it's encouraged is because if if municipalities work together, you can reduce costs. The town actually did a study as to what it would cost them to create their own wastewater treatment plant, and they're saving at least $4 million by by having the village accept their wastewater into our wastewater treatment plant, so it is it really is a benefit. They also will be contributing the capital cost associated with their portion of what they're using in the wastewater treatment plant. So that helps the village in the sense that that's additional capital monies to to support the project, and and this is this grant is due July 27th, and the town had requested, given that they had already applied and received a grant, they they requested to be the lead agency, which it doesn't make any difference once the grant has been has been awarded, and this just means that the final pulling together of all the data. Everybody has to do their own data, so there's plenty of work on both sides, but the town's engineer will pull together all the data that's been created and put it into the grant to make the application. So, and this particular grant is has the potential of up to 40 percent of the project cost. It is less contingency, so it wouldn't be for the full 28 million, it'd be for something a little bit less than that on our side. And in my resolution, I have the probable cost at 27.8 million. What we did for the bond resolution was we just rounded it up. I, it, I don't think it makes it doesn't make any difference in the in the whereas because that's specifically what the engineering report. Those are the numbers in the engineering report. But and the way it's set up is it's 40 percent of the project cost less contingency up to 10 million dollars. But if your project isn't big enough to get you to 10 million, which we are not, I think it's about 9.4 is the potential that we have for this grant. So with that, if anybody has any questions, great. Otherwise, I take the motion to approve. Frances Uku 1:19:54 I have questions. Sure. I think it would be no surprise to anyone that I'm very much in favor of of this approach, however, and this is something that we had talked about before. So the town is, you know, lead applicant on this thing only because, and this is no shade to the town, but the ing as as defined by EFC, the the reason for the town's the need for the town or EFC's request for the town to rescind their award is, you know, there seem to be some somewhere or the other miscommunication or what have you about the application about the requirements. So, given that we have the larger project, I just would like to see, like, what are we like the actual application? What are we signing on for when we say, right? This is we're giving the supervisor the authority to execute on behalf of both on behalf of both municipalities. Karen Smythe 1:20:58 So what you what you're signing off on is the villages portion, which is now 20 estimated to be $27.8 million as defined in the updated engineering report. That's the 640 page document that was sent around. That that it's also accessible on the. That's why we didn't print it out. No, I tried. That is what that is what you're authorizing. Is that that that engineering report that project is the village's portion of the intermunicipal grant? Frances Uku 1:21:33 Okay, and so with so we're happy with. Sorry, I just you know I I would like things to be correct so that we, you know, there's not this there's not misunderstandings and not needs to withdraw things and you know like get it. What is it? Williams nailed it right the first time. You know, like so that's my only that's my only question as to is there something further that we could see assurance-wise to, or this here is just right. Go on and and submit. Perry Allen 1:22:08 We just want to read the grant before it's submitted too, because we are authorizing. So Karen Smythe 1:22:12 yeah, so so two things. One is we know that so the town's engineer is Tyne Bond, and Tynebond it will be doing the application, and they were successful last year. I mean, EFC accepted it, and they they actually made a grant award. We also, as you know, have met with EFC, and they are, I would say, doing everything they can to help us be in the very best position so that they could award us a grant. They can't guarantee, but they they would like. No, I I've been in Frances Uku 1:22:45 all of it. I'm very much so. Karen Smythe 1:22:46 I this the the the reason to give this authorization is it's required for the grant application. Frances Uku 1:22:53 Sure. Karen Smythe 1:22:53 I'd be more than happy to share with you the grant application. The issue that I'm a little concerned about is it the timing doesn't work if you need to see the grant application before authorization is provided. Frances Uku 1:23:07 Understood. So 100% Karen Smythe 1:23:09 happy to share with you what the grant application will look like when they've pulled it together. Part of what they're waiting for is this, and also a couple of other things that I can sign based on this, and so and the vast bulk of what goes into the grant is the Frances Uku 1:23:29 engineering report. Karen Smythe 1:23:31 That really is the that's really our application, and then it's really just sort of putting in the requisite things and the different line items. Frances Uku 1:23:40 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I just yeah, I I'm I'm happy for it to go through. I just want to flag that. Karen Smythe 1:23:46 Sure, we want to make sure we want to make sure it gets done right. Frances Uku 1:23:49 100% Marybeth DeFilippis 1:23:51 I agree. Frances Uku 1:23:52 Okay. Karen Smythe 1:23:55 Okay. With that, I will take a motion to approve. Craig Rothstein 1:23:59 So moved. Karen Smythe 1:24:00 Thank you, Craig. Second. Frances Uku 1:24:02 I'll second. Karen Smythe 1:24:04 All right, we'll do a roll call vote. Go the other way, Craig. Craig Rothstein 1:24:08 Aye. Karen Smythe 1:24:10 Fran. Frances Uku 1:24:11 Aye. Karen Smythe 1:24:11 Oops, sorry. I didn't mean to go all that way. Like wait, why is it going to be? I mean, I'm ready. Who's next? Frances Uku 1:24:20 Goodness. Karen Smythe 1:24:21 Aye. Yes. Perry, aye, and I'm an aye. Okay, great. And that's 35, I think. Resolution number. Okay, the next one is this is to authorize the application for a water quality improvement grant, and this is again a different pool of funding from the state. We are planning to request $10 million It has a 20-5% matching fund requirement. We have grants already of 2.5 million, so that actually will cover our our matching our matching funds, so we we we can lay it out that way, which is which is great, and so the the rest of it is pretty much the same, except that this is this will be our application, our set just us, and this will be, and again, same thing. The vast majority of the application is the engineering report. The other piece that's interesting about this grant application, having a consent order is actually a benefit, which is ironic. But also, we did end up finding the original data from the labs for the water testing, water sample testing that was done prior to the first project, and according to according to EFC is also facilitating this one, but according to them, that actually adds to our points. To it's a benefit to us that we have that data, so it's not a guarantee, but it certainly puts us in a better position, which is which is exciting. So if you think about it, best case scenario, we get 10 million from here, 9.4 from there. We're at 19.4. We have another you know pushing 10 million. It's still a lot of money to go, but it's a whole lot closer to. I mean, we have the 2.5, so it's you know you're now you're around eight. I'm still waiting to hear. I had gotten an early indication that we should be getting some funding from Congressman Ryan. We will not be getting the 2 million that we had asked for, but we still should be getting some funding from that. Again, still has to be approved by the federal, by the by Congress, which is a thing unto itself. But so anyway, it just it puts us in a position where we'd be in much better stead to actually do the project just about as we designed it, which would be exciting. And again, it's that's the best case scenario. Can I have other questions about this one? Yeah. Frances Uku 1:27:04 Yeah. Could I ask because this so this is unlike the the IMG, which is an EFC. That's an EFC program. This is DEC, right? And so my only question about this is, and I you know I did some some looking, and and maybe this is something you can speak to as well, because this is the same scope as the intermunicipal grant. From what I've read, that there you can apply, but but with the same scope, you may not. Not that you may not. You they won't fund DC. Yes, it's two different agencies, but it's still the state. And for the same scope, they will not like double fund the projects. So, my question is, do you do you have any do you have any? Karen Smythe 1:27:57 So, depending on what you mean by double fund, what the information I have from Delaware Engineering is that both of these grants can be awarded. That the the one if the one's awarded, the other one isn't not awarded. There are other grants where that is the case, but this WQIP grant is separate in the sense that you can get a grant from this and that. Now they may also decide because we and I I do not know how it works. They don't have to give us the 10 million that we ask for. They can give us something less, but in in the way they do their granting on these two grants, we can get Frances Uku 1:28:40 both. Right. No, my question was just because it's just about the scope. Because what I had been looking at is the RFA for a WQIP, and for ineligible costs, it says so. Program, project, or program cost funded from other state sources are ineligible. So that was the question about about the scope. So they Karen Smythe 1:28:59 may choose to say because we have a 28 million dollar project, they might say because 40 percent of that, let's the 9.4, they're not going to fund that. Now whether or not they they they subtract able to subtract, but this isn't a percentage. This is an amount. So we've asked for 10 million. So, if if the project were 15 million, let's say, and we had the potential of getting more than 15 million, I would imagine they'd say, "Well, now we're not going to we're not going to overfund you. But I I I did ask the question, and I do know from Delaware Engineering that you can get funding from both of these grants. Frances Uku 1:29:41 I see. My my other question was about okay. This is the IMG one. So for the WQIP, where we have the recital, we have access. The village of Red Hook certifies that it has access to at least 2.5 million in local or federal funding for the required 25% match. So what where are we? What are we thinking of here? I mean, not that we have to have it. So we have Karen Smythe 1:30:04 received. We have been awarded a $2 million grant from the Mid Mid Hudson Valley Economic Development Council, and we've been awarded a $500,000 grant. So that is that is specifically what that is. Frances Uku 1:30:24 And are we? Because I know that the deadlines for this are similar. Are we? Because you will be submitting the application. So is this is this something that you you have ready to go for that deadline, or is it something that you are working on? Still, so the vast Karen Smythe 1:30:42 majority of the work is being done by the engineering report, and they have they have done their part, and they need they need this, they need a couple of other pieces of paper that are signed saying yes, we we require everyone to do sexual harassment training, other than minority business, and and just a you know sort of a final view of the of the grant itself, and it's and it's ready to go. And my limited understanding is earlier is better. Frances Uku 1:31:13 No, sure, absolutely, absolutely. Robert Perry Allen 1:31:16 definitely, yeah, phrase Frances Uku 1:31:17 that. Absolutely, yeah, but to the I mean, Robert is the engineer, and they they. Karen Smythe 1:31:26 So Delaware Engineering has has grant writers. Frances Uku 1:31:29 No, I get it. I know. I know. Karen Smythe 1:31:31 That's what they do, and they they are given direction by Robert as to the project, but they do the writing. Frances Uku 1:31:37 I understand, but only just that we have had you know in the past, our wea applications and things have have have not been successful. So my my question is just about again. This is something that I was looking up and came across, and and I know that Delaware. It's very difficult to talk about this without because I feel like I have to hedge. I don't want to insult anyone's work, but at the same time, you know. So just to clarify, the Karen Smythe 1:32:04 village of Red Hook has gotten millions and millions of dollars of grants from from. We got a 1.8 million dollar project approved by the Wea project just three years ago. Sure. So it's it's all grant applications don't don't get awarded, and so I I hear you in terms of is it would be nice to be as assured as possible that we will get a grant on July 13 for a grant that is due on July. I actually think this one's due July 31st. We're we're not changing engineer. We we don't have anyone. You know, it's really a matter of having some faith in the engineer that we have hired, and this we know this is a project that the state is aware of. I've been privy to some emails, and I know that Delaware Engineering has spoken to the people who do this grant, which is why I know that our consent order has put us in a better position. Why I know that, I mean, they were asking for the the reports from the sampling, so I think we are in as good a position, aside from aside from the income survey. I think we're in as good a position as as we can be. Do you guys have any questions, thoughts? Okay, would be great. We get both of them. It would be it would be amazing if it would, and you can only get what you shoot for. Very true. Perry Allen 1:33:45 Just to that point, Robert Flores did talk, speak to me about how he has really spoken with everybody from the state down, and everyone's just aware of this project, which is bodes well for us. So hopefully. Karen Smythe 1:34:02 So with that, I'll ask for a motion to approve. So moved. Thank you, Mel Corke. Second. Speaker 5 1:34:08 Second. Karen Smythe 1:34:09 Thank you, Craig. Okay, go the other way. Which way is that now? Yeah, it's keeping you guessing. Mel Corke. Aye. Fran. Frances Uku 1:34:21 Yeah, I know everybody. I'm I'm confident of this passing. For myself, I will abstain, but I'm happy it's going forward. Karen Smythe 1:34:29 Can I just ask why you're abstaining? Frances Uku 1:34:31 I just I what I explained about the the funding, not inconsistency, but potential conflict, not conflict, but potential conflict with the INC. So you'd rather not apply Karen Smythe 1:34:43 for the grant because there's a potential that we we won't get Frances Uku 1:34:47 it. Well, yes, I I don't think we should apply for things that we don't have a good understanding of or or assurance of getting. Okay. Karen Smythe 1:34:59 Perry. Hi. Frances Uku 1:35:01 Craig. Karen Smythe 1:35:02 Craig, aye. And I'm also an aye. Okay, so it passes four four with one abstention. Okay, thank you very much. Oh, did I not print it out? Shoot. Oh yes, I did. Hold on. So when we did our non-union village employee raises, I had a bad math situation, and I'm not sure if I need to do a resolution, but I figured I'd do it anyway. So for Jen Cavanaugh's pay rate, a 3% increase moved it to 20-9.7 to 29.7052, and that should have rounded up to 0.71. On the prior resolution, it was listed as 29.70. So I'm really asking for an updated one so that we have it on record that you all approve that. That's literally the purpose of this resolution. Perry Allen 1:36:03 Yeah. Karen Smythe 1:36:04 So I will take a motion to approve. Thank you, Milford. Perry Allen 1:36:08 Second. Second. Karen Smythe 1:36:09 Thank you, Perry. All in favor? Aye. Perry Allen 1:36:12 Great. It's a pretty steep increase, but I guess we can. It's now. Karen Smythe 1:36:16 It's also partly the principle of the thing, right? Okay. The next item on the agenda is the length of service award program by the for the Red Hook Fire firefighters, and so what you have in your packet, the way this process works is the fire company puts together their list. They have points. You get points for a variety of different things. If you go to a meeting, if you do training, if you respond to a call, all of those things lead to points. Those points get added up throughout the year, and if you hit 50, you then have hit the threshold for a service award for that year. We don't pay out every year. The program does not pay out every year. It accumulates. When you hit 60-five, you can apply for a payout of the service awards that you've received throughout your time as a as a volunteer firefighter, and the process is that the fire company puts puts this list up on a bulletin board for 30 days, so that everybody has a chance to double check if their numbers are right, or question them, or what have you, and so that process has all been done. Now that it has been done, we the we the village board are required to acknowledge that and and approve that. Did I include? And there's a there's an approval form, and it just states what the process is, and and it requires us as a village board to review and approve the 2025 firefighter records listing, and sign the document, and then I send it in, and then the only other thing we need is a motion to authorize me as mayor to sign the length of service award program sponsor authorization form. So I don't. We do need that motion, and then I also have this piece of paper that I guess I didn't send around to you because we all need to sign the same one. So if you want to take a look at it, but I would, I do need a motion to authorize me to sign the 2025 Length of Service Award Program sponsor authorization form. Perry Allen 1:39:08 So moved. Frances Uku 1:39:09 Okay, so this is just a copy for our records here, and then that's the one we signed. That's the one we Karen Smythe 1:39:13 signed. Yes. Craig Rothstein 1:39:13 Got it. Oh yes, Karen Smythe 1:39:14 I did do. I did. Yeah, you did. Gotcha. Yeah. No. All right. So I'll just Perry Allen 1:39:18 fill this up then. Yes. Yes. Karen Smythe 1:39:20 Please. So. Perry, you said you will make that motion. Perry Allen 1:39:25 Yes. Do I have a second? Second. Karen Smythe 1:39:27 Thank you, Fran. All in Frances Uku 1:39:30 favor? Aye. Aye. Karen Smythe 1:39:32 Okay. All right. So that's it for that piece. Okay. The next item is really just for me to alert you. So we receive franchise. This is related to spectrum contract renewal. This is related to our franchise fee that we receive. Last fiscal year we got 30-$3,000 roughly. Might have been 30-two and change. It is based on the revenue that the cable company receives, which is related to the number of subscribers in the village of Red Hook. As you might imagine, those numbers are going down. But 30-230-$3,000, is nothing to sneeze at, and so the prior contract that we had was with Time Warner Cable. It is on spectrum. I am sending the contract to our attorney just so that he can look at it and make sure there isn't something that we should be concerned about. It's the same 5% of their village revenue, I don't know that we have any way of truly auditing what they do, but it does provide us with some. So I am literally I intended to share with you the contract, but I didn't get it to the attorney yet. So I'm just putting that on your radar. So that's literally all that that one is about to Melkorka Kjarval 1:41:02 go down at all because people are switching from spectrum to their. Karen Smythe 1:41:07 I I do. Frances Uku 1:41:08 the The Karen Smythe 1:41:08 percentage proposed in the contract is the same 5% So I I do expect that to go down. Okay. And I don't know if there is anything that we can do to help them make it better. I don't know. Were you Perry Allen 1:41:24 negotiate the 5% either, or no? Frances Uku 1:41:27 I doubt for a higher Perry Allen 1:41:27 rate. Karen Smythe 1:41:28 I don't think so. I mean, I can certainly ask. I know our village attorney said that he's looked at a number of these for different municipalities. I can ask him if anybody else has more than 5% I don't know that we have a lot of leverage. Yeah, sure. But I can certainly ask the question. Perry Allen 1:41:45 Yeah. Okay. Karen Smythe 1:41:47 Okay. Next item on the agenda: discussion of Nicom Fall School 2026. Frances Uku 1:41:59 Who's going? I would Perry Allen 1:42:01 like to. I'm planning on it. I just haven't registered. I haven't gone through the actual motion, but I'm planning on being there. Karen Smythe 1:42:09 Okay. So just a reminder that the way from a from a budgetary standpoint. Patrick Hildebrandt, RHPD 1:42:13 Yes. Karen Smythe 1:42:13 The way we we have a budget of $2,000 for the for the four trustees, and so what we agreed was that we would divide that by four. So everyone has 500,000 to 500 Craig Rothstein 1:42:26 Ooh, 500,000 Good for me. Yeah. Would you be a great trip? Karen Smythe 1:42:30 Yeah, $500 The average cost all in has been running about 1400 to 1500 So for you, you should apply for the grant because there's a potential $1,000 grant for new attendees. Perry Allen 1:42:47 I will definitely do that Karen Smythe 1:42:49 because if you do that, then your then your full cost would be covered. Perry Allen 1:42:52 Fantastic. Frances Uku 1:42:54 But if so, okay, so but there's the 500 so allotment so how the so that's I mean that's even less than registration. Never mind expenses. So how would that work in terms of Trustee Allen's 500 If he gets the $1,000 grant, then Karen Smythe 1:43:16 he has $1,500 to to expense for that. Perry Allen 1:43:22 And is it coming out 1500 including lodging and such? Frances Uku 1:43:25 That's including lodging. The Karen Smythe 1:43:26 registration is about $590 Frances Uku 1:43:29 Correct. Karen Smythe 1:43:30 And then there's there's hotel. You don't have to stay at the hotel, and and mileage to get there, and meals. Frances Uku 1:43:38 And and meals, yes. So the reason I ask is because I, for me, I I definitely don't need to go to full school. The only thing that I would like to go to is in the in the winter, the winter legislative, which is much cheaper than fall school. But I I my full thing is covered with that because that still leaves me under the 500 My question was about if, say for instance, Perry didn't get the grant, then then how? The way Karen Smythe 1:44:07 we're set up now is that the extra cost that that would be Perry would be required to pay that on his own, Frances Uku 1:44:13 and and you'd be happy to pay that. Perry Allen 1:44:15 I think at that moment I'd consider whether or not. Yeah, but I I would I'd very much like to attend. So you know, probably. As as a board, would you rec? Do you find the training would be better in the fall or the winter for a new one? Yes, yes, yes, yes. I guess Frances Uku 1:44:37 just coming back to the the value, what we recognize as the value of these conferences, to me, as little as we get paid, it seems a huge ask for you to spend your own money in the hundreds to bring this back to the village, if that makes sense. Like you're not. Melkorka Kjarval 1:44:56 I'm advocating Frances Uku 1:44:59 for myself. I'm advocating for someone who would like to go, so they don't have to pay all that money. Karen Smythe 1:45:04 Just to clarify, we went through the budget process and we had the discussion, and the board approved $2,000 in the in the budget line item for for training. This is not the only training opportunity. Nicom has lots of different training opportunities that don't require this level of cost. I appreciate the fact that you're advocating for for Perry or anyone else. What we had decided as a board was that $2,000 was the amount we have in the budget. We split it by four. Everyone has $500 to spend. If the board wants to decide to put more money into that account, then the question would be, what is it coming from? And we had that discussion as well. So at this point, I guess the other question is, is anyone else interested in going? Is it would would the board like to look at the budget and and reallocate some funds? Again, we'd had this. We have had this discussion more than once. Frances Uku 1:46:03 Yes, but in the past, and this is Karen Smythe 1:46:07 all related to the same thing that we're talking about right now. Frances Uku 1:46:09 Yes, but needs change, and we and yeah, okay. So my whole thing with this is, I thought that we valued NICOM as training, but actually coming back to it, because I was looking at, we could all see the expenses from NICOM, and I must mention that there is an outstanding bill from January of $255. That is an outstanding invoice from trustee attendants at Winter Legislative in in January. Is that for Karen Smythe 1:46:35 Trustee Macarini? Frances Uku 1:46:36 Yes, Karen Smythe 1:46:37 and we as a board decided and agreed that the village was not going to pay for that, Frances Uku 1:46:42 but we don't have the option because we pay. We that is an invoice. That is a charge that was made. So whether we do Karen Smythe 1:46:49 very much have the option to send the bill to to Frances Uku 1:46:52 to Nicom? Karen Smythe 1:46:53 No, to Trustee Macarine. Yes, but in the Frances Uku 1:46:56 meantime, he can owe us. We should not be owing Nicom. That's the point I'm making. We decided, yes, we voted, we voted to not pay that. But we we should not be stiffing NICOM. It's, I mean, that's just it's in the list there. If if someone at NICOM is going through, there's an unpaid bill from us. Yes, I agree. That's what was voted. That was what was agreed that the bill goes out. But we should pay that bill. Let him owe us, and not us owe Nycom. It's a really bad look, in my opinion. Karen Smythe 1:47:30 Again, we are a board. We can choose to do it differently. I think it's it's a bill that the board determines should be paid for by former trustee Macarini. I I don't agree that the village should pay the bill. If others believe that we should pay the bill, I'm happy to happy to entertain that. Frances Uku 1:47:45 The only reason we were able to to that charge was made is because it was under the NICOM. That is a registration under the village's NICOM account. We made a decision about whether or not we were going to pay for that person. That's a that's a decision, but we still owe NICOM the money, because that that expense was made. Karen Smythe 1:48:06 So would anyone else like like the board to the village to pay this expense and have it be owed to the village, or are you all right with leaving it the way it is and having having Trustee Macarini pay it as we had decided as the board directly? Frances Uku 1:48:20 No, he will pay. Perry Allen 1:48:23 Has the bill gone to him yet? Frances Uku 1:48:26 That's another question. I know Karen Smythe 1:48:27 it has, but I can certainly follow up. I can't speak to where it is at this moment. Frances Uku 1:48:31 I guess then, yes. So that's a motion that I'm happy to make. That I move that the village pay that bill and let Trustee Macarini reimburse that. Karen Smythe 1:48:43 Okay. Next item on the agenda. Since there is no second, the the motion is is is not moved forward. Frances Uku 1:48:54 It's moved but not passed. Karen Smythe 1:48:57 Moved but not seconded. Moved but not seconded. And there you go. Okay. There was a question about lawn property maintenance. Frances Uku 1:49:06 Yes. So yeah, I would I would love I would love to know what the process is. I I did actually speak to this person who lives at 12 Phillips Street. They are creating a meadow in the front. I have photos of it if you would like to see. No, Karen Smythe 1:49:20 that's not your question. What's your question? Frances Uku 1:49:22 My question is how. What is the meaning of a complaint in this, in the zoning meeting planning? That Karen Smythe 1:49:28 somebody somebody reached out to the village and said there are some. There's a property that is not mowing their lawn, and so it's registered as a complaint. Frances Uku 1:49:38 Okay, but that has this has no action in terms of the owners of this the homeowners listed here. Karen Smythe 1:49:45 So what happens when a complaint comes in is the zoning enforcement officer will review the complaint. It again it depends on depends on what the what the complaint is. They normally what would happen is there would be a an inspection, and then there would be a determination by the, I guess that would be the code enforcement officer anyway, the same person, as to whether or not there's a violation. Frances Uku 1:50:11 So Melkorka Kjarval 1:50:12 we don't have any. There's nothing written in here about what the status. Well, it shows Karen Smythe 1:50:16 that one of them was remedied, which I don't know what that means. Actually, I'm Melkorka Kjarval 1:50:19 saying that in that inspection. It means Karen Smythe 1:50:21 that whatever the issue was was remedied. Frances Uku 1:50:25 But yes, but how would we even know know what this is? I mean, we had said. Karen Smythe 1:50:30 Would you like further information? We will see them. There you go. We'll request the information, and we can report back. Okay, thank you. But I just, yeah, I didn't want to take up the time in your reports, so this is just why I, I because when we discussed the fee schedule for law and property maintenance, we had said like there is like 10 inches we were going Frances Uku 1:50:50 to, but this all seems like so someone has to go out there, someone has to measure it in whatever way they're measuring. Measuring this is a homeowner who would who is maintaining a wildflower meadow? Like a complaint from someone, the fact that it can trigger all of this expense on the village's part that Karen Smythe 1:51:08 we currently have is that we do. It is a requirement that you mow your lawn. We don't have meadow. Going to get a meadow code, right? But we don't have allowance, if you will. And what we've talked about, and we've talked about it in the Public Spaces Committee, and we actually have a proposal, though I need to run it by our land use attorney to make sure, or whichever place it goes, to make it conform with the way we would do it within our code, is to allow for. And my perspective is, there needs to be parameters around a meadow where it can't just be you just don't mow any of your lawn. So it would be paths, a certain amount of you know sort of mowing around it or what have you. We Frances Uku 1:51:53 have such small front. A lot of properties in the village, including this one, have just a postcard, and she's just growing you know, wildflowers in there. So, so that would Karen Smythe 1:52:03 that would qualify as a garden bed. I mean, again, I I can't say that I know our code in and out, but we also do have a code about properly maintaining your properly maintaining your property. Frances Uku 1:52:16 I feel that this opens us up to so much challenge and so much like this. I'm sorry. What is Karen Smythe 1:52:22 this? Frances Uku 1:52:23 Having this in the fee schedule about the 10 inch. What did we say? Whatever it is, essentially Karen Smythe 1:52:30 related to state law. Frances Uku 1:52:33 State law means that I mean, I grow a section of my frontage. Am I gonna? Am I expecting to receive one of these these complaints, I get one. I mean, there must be loads of neighbors who don't like how I keep my my my lawn. This doesn't necessarily help the Perry Allen 1:52:49 immediate problem, but I hope what I shared with the mayors with this planting ordinance that we can begin considering gives Melkorka Kjarval 1:53:00 parameters Perry Allen 1:53:00 parameters and permission for that. Why don't we just Frances Uku 1:53:03 let people do what they want with their own property? I don't understand. I think it's so that we. Perry Allen 1:53:07 I think I think they're not neglected. There are some. There are some neglect. So get them. That's what it's for. Yes. Melkorka Kjarval 1:53:14 You can't put one thing and not do it together. That's a problem with all rules. They have to be done fairly, or you can't do that. Frances Uku 1:53:21 And they do have to be done, Flarry. There is two. Speaker 3 1:53:23 And we're going to change the rule. Frances Uku 1:53:24 I just I don't understand why. If you, it's. I mean, again, I. I guess it's in the eye of the world. What you're saying Karen Smythe 1:53:30 is, is that everyone should be able to grow their their lawn as long as they want with no with no parameters. Frances Uku 1:53:36 I. If I wanted to live with those parameters, I would live in a homeowners association. Yes, that's what I believe. I I don't understand why. Karen Smythe 1:53:43 That's just not our code. There is a requirement for a certain level of property maintenance. Frances Uku 1:53:49 Okay, all right. Karen Smythe 1:53:50 And I and I do believe that when you live in a village where you you live near your neighbors, that to have some level of requirement for property maintenance is appropriate. But this person cannot have a wildflower meadow then, per this. Well, actually, no, no, no. Perry Allen 1:54:05 Actually, quite to the opposite, because I want to say that even from a personal point, that I very much believe in what you're saying, and I'm, I'm, I'm trying to rewild my property in many ways, and I very much believe in that. And this code adjustment that um, or that we're will be considering at some point, actually supports these initiatives, because right now, as our code is, it's like okay, if you're at 10 inches, then we can find you, and you should be mowing that down. Where in fact, there are many ways that we can enable these wildflower patches and meadows far more than what we have on the code. Karen Smythe 1:54:36 And to be clear, we are we are not we are not enforcing the code to the letter of the code. I mean, there's a beautiful property on on Fisk Street that has a whole area in the front that is planted with different things, but it also has a clear mowed path around it. It's clearly maintained, and because growing a meadow doesn't always look great, and so it they're you know part of the process, and so having some parameters about someone actively creating a wildflower garden or what have you versus someone who's literally just not mowing their lawn. Frances Uku 1:55:14 I mean the the property that you describe is literally like a third of an acre, if not more, in front of. They have that. This person does not have that. So where's the path to do is to Karen Smythe 1:55:23 create create the parameters around which there would be an opportunity for. I mean, for example, we don't want long grasses right at the road because that's going to fall into the road. It it becomes problematic. So to me, there there needs to be some a certain amount back from the road that gets mowed, it Melkorka Kjarval 1:55:41 will be the board that will decide on the actual code that is proposed. So we will have the ability to review and discuss it. I don't understand totally why you're taking as it's an adversarial thing. We all agree. I'm not taking anything adversarially. I was asking what. We agree that it is a good thing to come up with a code that allows for meadows. We've discussed this as a board, so I'm not totally sure. Frances Uku 1:56:06 My question was strictly about the process. What does it mean that there is this address is listed? These homeowners are cited. What does complaints mean? If it just means oh, we recorded someone's phone call. That's what I. That's all I'm asking. I see this in a building and zoning. There's Karen Smythe 1:56:21 a process, as I explained. When someone calls in and says someone is not effectively, it's not following code, and the zoning or code enforcement officer will go and do an inspection. And if they determine that they are not meeting code, they get a violation. That's that's the process when a complaint comes in. Frances Uku 1:56:38 And what is the violation? Is what I'm asking. Karen Smythe 1:56:40 I think the best answer is to get the specifics and to report back. Melkorka Kjarval 1:56:46 But it's important that we have that complaint process because there are safety violations. They do happen. It is important that we have the ability for people to report something. We can't not, you know. It's an important process that we have. Frances Uku 1:57:00 I. Yeah. Karen Smythe 1:57:01 Yeah. yeah. Joe, we'll we'll report back. I I don't have the backup. I can't tell you what the specific, except there was something about the loan and property that wasn't maintained Frances Uku 1:57:12 to the standard of the complainant, which to the standard Karen Smythe 1:57:15 of the code. Frances Uku 1:57:16 Well, they don't know the code. Someone just complained and that's and if the and if the Karen Smythe 1:57:20 answer is the person is meeting code, then there's no violation. Craig Rothstein 1:57:25 So this happened to me. My neighbor was, who is no longer Frances Uku 1:57:33 you a native of Craig Rothstein 1:57:34 this realm, made a complaint, and well, so to speak, I think they were moved, but they made a complaint, and what what happened was somebody from the county came and looked at the property, and then I spoke with them directly, and they were very kind, and they were very. They was a county assessor came. They reported to the village, but whoever came said that they were from the county and he had paperwork. Melkorka Kjarval 1:58:08 But I think that might have been because we don't. Craig Rothstein 1:58:10 So I'm not. Unless that Karen Smythe 1:58:12 was Department of Health. Craig Rothstein 1:58:13 What I what I do know is that he was very he was very much like no three feet in. Yeah, I could see what you're doing, and anybody who walks past our property now sees that we have about eight wildflower clusters, and we did just mow. But point being, I know that the long grasses make some people nervous about ticks, and we do live in a you know high tick area. It's a shame that the Cary Institute and Bard aren't still doing their tick assessment, but so there's understandable. But from what I understand, the complaints are highly subjective, but they are then assessed by people who are qualified to do assessment. Speaker 6 1:58:56 Yes, and Craig Rothstein 1:58:57 then you know they they they move from there. And I think that there's a lot of time for homeowners. There was a lot of time for us to remedy the situation, and in the interest of being decent neighbors to somebody who was quite elderly and not in good health, and we wanted to be kind, so we we did what we needed to do. But it seems to be very subjective and very complaints. Karen Smythe 1:59:18 Anybody can complain. Receive everything Craig Rothstein 1:59:20 exactly. Karen Smythe 1:59:20 Yeah, but if there's no violation of code, Frances Uku 1:59:23 right? Karen Smythe 1:59:23 It's a you know thanks for letting us know, but Frances Uku 1:59:27 yeah. But you would only know that after someone had gone out to see what exactly is or check the code. Melkorka Kjarval 1:59:31 Probably, or known enough to check the code to look right. Frances Uku 1:59:34 Known enough to check. I've had Perry Allen 1:59:35 multiple complaints called against my property for different reasons, and I think every time it's just been found that I'm not in violation and nothing ever happens. Frances Uku 1:59:46 Yes, and either because you're a freak of the offender, people know know yours. But in the case of this, like the, do are we going to have someone go out for every? So someone doesn't like the way I keep my frontage, and so then we're spending taxpayer money for the code enforcement officer to come out and look at my frontage, and I don't know. It just Melkorka Kjarval 2:00:11 only if it's actually would go against code. Only if the person's complaint is something that they could investigate, right? So they would check it against whether or not it would be in violation. The complainant, the complainant, Karen Smythe 2:00:22 or the complaint. So if someone complains like Lara, we Melkorka Kjarval 2:00:26 know whether or not. Craig Rothstein 2:00:27 Yeah, no, that's it. I think I have a dog, Karen Smythe 2:00:29 and I don't like that. There's nothing to investigate. You can have a dog. Frances Uku 2:00:36 No, no, we're just we're talking about the law. The teacher Melkorka Kjarval 2:00:39 has dog food in a barrel that is up against my fran, and there are rats. That's something different, right? Like we were Frances Uku 2:00:46 talking about lawn, so I'm not sure how we go on. In our Craig Rothstein 2:00:49 situation, Lara did handle this. Clearly, it couldn't have been from the county. I don't know what's going on, but my understanding, because I spoke with Lara, and keeping all confidential, she was very professional, but the point was they articulated their lawn at the time. Our grass had been long enough to actually fall down, like you know, it lays flat when it's like two feet long, and that is way above the 10-inch thing. So that was justification to send somebody out to talk with us and to see what's going on. So I think that's that was the step. It was the complaint, and then why are you complaining? And then they articulate the reasons why, and they say, "Well, you're right. Your observations are in line with a code violation. We're going to send somebody out to have a professional actually do the assessment. So I think there are steps that happen before we kind of expend a you know a tax-funded employee to to go do that. Perry Allen 2:01:42 And if I also could take a step back, I do believe as well that sounds as though this particular instance is unfortunate, right? It sounds as though they're trying to do something wonderful and had a neighbor complain about them. And hopefully, as we move forward with some of the adjustments to the code, we can make sure that whatever they're doing is, you know, reinforced on the books because it sounds like they're trying to do what we're what we're also trying to do. Melkorka Kjarval 2:02:07 And I just want to add the whole thing. If that makes Speaker 7 2:02:09 sense. Melkorka Kjarval 2:02:10 Yeah, I know we're not talking about the actual code that we're proposing, but like doing a meadow is a lot of work and it's a lot of effort and it takes management. And when you have unmanaged land, it can become an issue for your neighbors. There's a lot of invasives. They tend to shoot underneath fence lines. It's you know it is anyway. I do think a adjustment to the code that takes into consideration you know the impact everybody. Frances Uku 2:02:38 12 Phillips. I mean this particular lot is no shade. There's no shade at all intended. Is a postcard-sized frontage. Karen Smythe 2:02:50 If if that frontage again, you know, I think it's pretty standard that you that we will require some to be off the road, not not growing at the road. If there's no room, there's no room, and that's just an unfortunate situation in that particular parcel. But that's something that we can look at and address. Frances Uku 2:03:16 Okay. Karen Smythe 2:03:16 Okay. This is the moment for me to mention that our next meeting is a workshop meeting on the 27th, and Craig, you so we had a special workshop meeting this afternoon reviewing the zoning amendment, the proposed zoning amendment, and we agreed today that we would meet again on July 27th from 1 to 3 to review to continue the review, it was recorded by Panda, so there will be an opportunity for you to review if you'd like, and so that that will be noticed by by Jen when she gets back. But that's that's an additional meeting that we have coming up on July 27th, and the and I'm I'm really pleased that we are able to move forward this judiciously because I think that it's important to have these conversations. It's it's important work that we're doing, and I think it's helpful to keep it moving because if we stretch it out too long, we forget what we did and what we discussed. And this is a this is a great opportunity to continue to move forward on the work we've done on the northeast quadrant. Melkorka Kjarval 2:04:26 And if you have questions, you can email it to the consultant, and we can add it to that chart so that we're all sort of they have the ability to prepare. Karen Smythe 2:04:35 And then our next our next formal board meeting is August 10th. And with that, we have the treasurer's report. Yeah, I think you need to. If you're to pull it towards you, you need to pull the whole arm down, not not the. There you go. As of Marybeth DeFilippis 2:05:11 June 30th, the village's finances are as follows: the general fund held 219,380-one dollars and 90-five cents. Nightclass General Fund held 1,000,430-$5 360-$8.90-seven cents. Water fund held 112,260-$2.50-six cents. Our Nightclass Water fund held 150-5330-$3.90-six cents. The sewer fund held 150,260-$2.20-four cents. Arrow Clarke account held 80-4320-$3.70 The hardest partal account held 40-$2.70-six cents. Village grade account held $5,106.30-five cents. Our health insurance deductible account held 7440-$2.20-six cents. Karen Smythe 2:06:21 Before you before you go on, just to share with the board, Mary Beth sent us all an email. I don't think we have this report printed out. I have it up on the screen. Frances Uku 2:06:33 Yeah, I got it in email. Oh, in the Karen Smythe 2:06:35 mailbox. Got it. Yeah, Perry Allen 2:06:36 I thought I Marybeth DeFilippis 2:06:37 could. Oh. Perry Allen 2:06:39 Yes. Karen Smythe 2:06:39 I guess I didn't go in my mailbox. Yeah, we normally Perry Allen 2:06:42 did. Karen Smythe 2:06:42 Got it. Anyway, it's on the screen for this. Perry Allen 2:06:44 What am I looking at then? Marybeth DeFilippis 2:06:46 Okay, that's for our SR savings accounts as of June 30th. The fire departments had 10,740-$3.90-six cents. The police departments 18,460-one dollars and 60-six cents. cents. Our NICLAS USDA reserve account, water reserve account, held 150,000 to 460-$5.60-seven cents. Our USDA water reserve account at MNT held $7.90-three cents. Oh highway reserve $616.47 No reserve $3,547.36 Our reserve account held $19,158.18 Our unemployment reserve held $7,599 and. and 20-eight cents. Our court reserve account held 3560-$8.04 Our office reserve account held 1050-one dollars and 90-five cents. As for our monthly expenses, the general fund had 250-2407 250-2470-$9.20-nine cents. The water fund had 70,520-four 570-$4.80 The payroll clearing account had 2270-$4.20-one cents, and the sewer fund had 30-5670-one dollars and 90-eight cents. This month, I added significant inter fund transfers to this report. In June, we had 950-$5,000 transferred from Nyclass from our transfer to Nyclass General Fund from our KeyBank General Fund, and that was a result of tax receipts coming in. We also had the Interfund advance to the Sewer Fund from the General Fund, which you all approved last week. Karen Smythe 2:09:10 Thank you very much. Anybody have any questions? Take a motion to accept the treasurer's report. Craig Rothstein 2:09:18 So moved. Karen Smythe 2:09:18 Thank you, Craig. Second. Perry Allen 2:09:20 Second. Karen Smythe 2:09:21 Thank you, Perry. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Great. Thank you. All right. That's that. Okay. Next, now we're on to reports, and I do. I just added two things to my report on page two. This is for you. I'll send an update to Jen's. She has it, and it's literally I just added two things at the end. Sewer expansion project, including the short-term upgrades. The updated engineering report was completed July 6 with an updated cost estimate for the project at 27,794,000, up from 19 point 5 million. This includes, and we've talked a little bit about this, but it also includes added elements, including the short-term upgrades, solar panels, and receiving station authorizations for grants. We just did those due to, and then the bond resolution that we also did. Short-term upgrade designs are due to the state in July. I say it's July 22nd, so next week. The sewer team actually reviewed a copy this morning at our meeting, and then we will be meeting soon to discuss the income survey to see if we want to proceed to attempt to complete enough surveys. Redwood Fire Department-they've submitted an updated list of officers. The fire chief is now Terry Lane. The administrative president is Keith McGilvery, and there are 48 active members as of June 3, 2026, and this includes 16 new members since August 2025, 18 members hit the service award point threshold for 2025. The food waste collection compost program county grant. We are up to 70 residents, which is great. I think the original grant had an estimate of 85, so we're getting very close. And these are folks who've signed up for the food waste collection program. You'll note that I don't have pounds in here because I spoke with Ray Silverman, who's the owner of Laughing Fox Farm, and he said, "Oh yes, I'll send it to you. And he hasn't sent it yet, so I don't have that number. But I will report on it next meeting. But with the remaining funds in the grant, I did speak with Ray about doing hold. holding an educational event about the composting process of food waste to soil, what not to put into the food waste bins, and perhaps an opportunity to plant some seeds in composted soil. Currently looking at Saturday morning, either September 12th or October 3rd. Anyone interested in helping with this program, please let me know. South Hill Watershed Community Advisory Council. We met on June 24th. I have the attendees listed here in my report. Eli Duker and his he has three summer student interns who have been working on the database that they've created. So there's a lot of data around around the Sawkill watershed. They've done years of water testing, and there's different information and data sources. And Bard put together under the direction of Eli Dukeert put together this database. And now what Eli is trying to do is to make it accessible, and so he's working with these students to do that. And they gave us they gave a presentation about what they are doing. It it it's it's great. Yeah, that was Perry Allen 2:12:51 great. Just right, and that was very interesting and very cool. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I didn't want to just talk over. Yeah, so I was just trying to keep it short. Absolutely, but I could I could go back one more. And Karen Smythe 2:13:05 then and Perry did indicate that the village's new wetland committee will be starting with education. Eli will provide data from the BART database. Karen Schneller McDonald offered to share her criteria for success worksheet. Karen Schneller McDonald actually, as a profession, puts together wetland restoration plans, so she's a she's a great asset. Who has said she will help as she can, and she also recommended reaching out to the Hudson River Valley Water Association. I believe is what that all is, and that's Emily Vail. The Wave Maker Award plaque that was awarded to the Sawkill Watershed community and Karen Schneller McDonald for all the work that's been done for and with well for the South Hill Washed over the last 10 years is now being kept in the village's conference room until the Sawkill Watched decides they want to move it somewhere else. Various projects were discussed, including the aerodrome, town's water tower land transfer, the golf course stream, the Sawkill stream reclassification, an update on the visit from the Dutchess County Soil and Water to Fisk Library Pond. We'll have to come up with a something better than Fisk Pond, but Frances Uku 2:14:22 I've admitted. Maybe Karen Smythe 2:14:23 if we go back to Kramer's lie, though. Yes, I was just about to Perry Allen 2:14:26 say Deputy Mayor had a great name in the past. Karen Smythe 2:14:28 Is it a pond or is it a wetland? Was actually a very interesting question. But what the Dutch County Soil and Water encouraged was to start with finding the flood point, i.e. at what point does it is it so high that it becomes a threat to the village road, and then create a plan to move the excess water, and then separately to delineate the buffer area and then create a planting plan. Salkia Watershed Community has submitted a proposal to the town for well testing. Supervisor McKeon suggested looking at testing the whole town discussion around how to make that work. This is individual water water wells. They have done that program in the number of years ago, and they're waiting for a response from the town. Senator Hinchy has indicated that South Carolina Watershed Community will be receiving a $23,000 grant. It's a reimbursement grant. Need to wait and see what the parameters are before making definitive plans. Eli discussed the Bard stream monitoring and the loss of many volunteers. A discussion on how to coordinate with Bard to continue to monitor key sites and also review what sites should be monitored. So, if anyone is interested in being involved in testing streams once a month. They go out and take take samples and bring them to the Bard Lab. I believe is how that works. Reach out to the South Carolina Washtershed community, or if you if it's easier, just shoot me an email and I'll put you in touch. It sounds like a very fun thing to do. And then the next meeting is Wednesday, july 22 Dutch County Transportation Council. We had an advisory meeting on june 24 Call for grant applications for projects associated with the safety action plan has been released. Application deadline was extended to July, but I think it was last week. I'm sorry, I forgot to pull up the the number. The county has 2.5 million in federal funding available. I think this is something that our pedestrian advocacy committee can work towards, so that I'm I think they are hoping to do this more than once, and so I think then we'd be in a position to actually apply for for a grant under that, traffic counts will take place over the summer. Current indications are they'll likely be in August, and just a reminder that some of the traffic counts will be done by camera. But no personal information is recorded; just a count of cars going by. Moving Dutchess forward plan: the final virtual public meeting will be held July 22nd at 12 p.m. You can access the meeting by registering online on their website, which is movingduchesforward.com. And then the next meeting is July 29th. That's a that's the advisory board, and then there will be a policy board meeting in person on august 6. I am on the policy board as a representative from the Supervisors and Mayors Association of Dutchess County as one of two rural municipality appointments. And then the two other things that I added was just an update on the Narcan vending machine. Appreciated the lieutenant mentioning it. The machine was installed and loaded in early January 2026. In the first six months, the machine has dispensed 286 kits of Narcan, along with many test strips. The test strips, one is for fentanyl, and the other one. Do you remember the name of the other Frances Uku 2:18:00 one? It was Karen Smythe 2:18:01 not a name I was familiar with, but it is another another test strip. I don't have a number on those, but according to Eric Dantron, Dutchess County's clinical program director, he's the one who we coordinated with for this program. This is by by far more than any other machine in the county, and I just want to add a special thank you to former trustee Amy Smith for working with the county to coordinate this program for Red Hook, and also to thank Deputy Clarke Devens for making sure that we stay fully loaded. And then the last thing I just wanted to share with you all-it's it may be in everyone's sort of history, but some things take a long time to die. So the state and local fiscal recovery funds funding, which is also known as ARPA, the American Rescue Plan Act, the Village of Red Hook received $200,101.97 $1,101.97 in ARPA funding, and this was to support municipalities because of the pandemic. And as that program changed over time, it became because we were we received under 10 million, we could effectively use it for just about anything. We couldn't pay off a loan. We couldn't use it for legal fees, and there was one other thing we couldn't do. But we we used it, and I I wrote in here we used it for water repairs, water system upgrade. This was the SCADA system for the water. We bought the mini excavator that is Jake's a big fan of, which has also saved us significant monies because we've been able to do a lot of things ourselves without having to without having to hire hire out the hydrant buddy tool, which will be put in use this week because it it's a tool that helps to open the valves on the fire hydrants, and I will I will tell you that our DPW team loves this tool. That was about $5,000 We did village hall upgrades. We had new doors, the police phone, updated drinking fountains, extra cleaning, some of the planning, the initial planning work money was paid for by ARPA, the speed evaluation study, and then we had some other water equipment. The reason why I bring it up is because we just got notification from the U.S. Department of Treasury that we have complied with the process for closing it out. In that in that notification, it said if we decide to come back and do a further audit, we could still ding you for something that we don't like, but effectively, if we have done everything that we are supposed to do. So I just want to let you know, because that's one of those things that comes back up. It's like, what? Aren't we done with that? And so that's it. That's my report. Deputy Mayor Carol. Great. Melkorka Kjarval 2:21:00 Read it together. Did not meet in July. Town and Red Hook Fran. The town committee met monthly on the fourth Tuesday at town hall. June meeting was all about the survey and and the latest survey and the latest workshop and what is going to happen with the last workshop and when the timing will be for that because they contracted to have three different workshops, and the second one was at Rose Hill, and it was asking participants about goals. And now, now they're trying to figure out when they do the actual draft and what when they're going to do the timing for the last workshop that they want to get you know people giving them feedback on the draft or anyway so they haven't they haven't set up no we don't have a draft yet but we're going to start or I'm going to be able to be there watching the community that there were. color code dots that that people used at the actual last workshop to talk about the different goals, and the highest negative dots were on transportation and connectivity, and land use and town character. And but it's hard to know what it was that people didn't like with those negative dots because they had suggestions as well, and you didn't know, you know. So anyway, this sort of thing of getting input and making it as open as possible-it's-it's a tricky sort of balance. Town of Red Hook Community Preservation Fund, the balance as of six 920 20-six is 3,000,790-9590-one dollars and three cents. I contacted the chair of the CPF advisory board to see if they had set a date to give their opinion on the water district project that the town's advisor was talking about. I did hear back they have not scheduled that yet, but I'm on Mary Ann Johnson's Karen Smythe 2:23:00 list to contact. So hopefully. hopefully I will be able to attend the meeting and let you guys know about it. Village of Random Communications. I published the opening a new business brochure on the village website. I'm just going to pass those out, as well as like updating some of the buttons on the homepage as was requested by Jen and Laura, and there is a new fee schedule linking to the new fee schedule in a couple different places. Also, just to clarify, this is just a printout to show you. The plan is to print it out and to have a color version. So the idea is that the building department, building planning department, will have some that will give some to the chamber. We'll have some down here, and and make them available as as requested. And I think we're also looking into translating them into Spanish as well. So we may we may be able to use some of our language access funds for for that Perry Allen 2:24:00 that piece. Well, that's great. Melkorka Kjarval 2:24:01 Yeah, and thank you for your. I had both the mayor and trustee Perry. They reviewed it and gave me great feedback, so I really appreciate that. And then also, can I speak quickly about that other brochure that we're working on? Sure. That we're considering doing a brochure that would talk about the services that are available in Red Hook for people that are kind of going through a crisis. Something similar to this, similar layout that we talk about in our view machine. We talk about the emergency phone. We talk about you know emergency numbers to call if you're you know having a mental health issue. Where where the shelters are, how that works. Just a guide that and you know Code Blue, what places. places we have that give warming and cooling hours? Something that if you knew someone was unhoused and you were worried, you could feel informed of that. So that's that's in the works. Perry Allen 2:24:53 Fantastic. Melkorka Kjarval 2:24:54 And then Village of Red Hook's speed 25 miles per hour limit initiative. I called and emailed the DOT safety group. The investigator was out of the office. They did get back to me to say that it's still in process, and they'd update me when there was an update. But I'm going to keep bugging them. Language access grant. We received one proposal from the sign shop, and I'm a million proposals from other assignment makers. Karen Smythe 2:25:20 And I can also just add in there that the cutting down of the tree in front of Village Hall is related to when when you sort of do that in general with the big storm that happened a week ago. All the tree companies are fully loaded for now, so it pushes it back Melkorka Kjarval 2:25:40 a little bit. And then pedestrian advocacy committee. The mayor and I have begun contacting people who may have an interest in improving the pedestrian experience in the village to see if they have interest on serving on the committee. I've also gotten contacted from people that have talked to other trustees, so it's great. I appreciate that. A lot of interesting people that could possibly serve. Village and zoning review. The village board is beginning to review the North Quadrant zoning law and held a public special meeting with the village land use attorney and planning consultant at 1 p.m. That was today, and that recording will be up on handout for everybody to watch if they want, and then the Village of Red Hooks Building Department report building permits issued 11 for the month of June 2026, certificates of occupancy issued and temporary certificates of occupancy zero, certificates of compliance 18, municipal searches three, orders to remedy stop work orders, do not occupy notices, and court appearances all zero. Complaints three. There was one at 35 Thompson Street for lawn property maintenance that was remedied. 12 Phillips Street lawn property maintenance status was not put into this, and 7423 South Broadway noise slash use is under review. There were zero fire inspections, and the planning board actions on July 11, 2026, signage approval granted to the property located at 7508 North Broadway from Blue Sky Studio, and there was no June meeting for the zoning board in Skills due to no agenda, and you come to. building department for June 26 was 1000 $11,819 Karen Smythe 2:27:31 and that's a that's a very high number, which is why you you and if you look up a bit, the Bay Wright properties, all of them were inspected, and so that's that's why it's so high. They were all fire inspections, and as you might, I think everyone knows that the many of the Bayright properties are for sale, and so I think this was it worked in both directions. It worked for our building department to do all of their fire inspections at once, and they they have paid up. So that's yeah. I was looking at going what, and then I'm like, oh right, we did a lot of fire inspections. Perry Allen 2:28:15 And I'm so sorry. Can I ask a quick question about that same complaint that we were talking about? But just, we're going to get information as to whether or not it was remedied or what the thing that I'll ask. Okay, fantastic. Melkorka Kjarval 2:28:27 I have it in my notes. I will add a star next to it now that you've reminded me. Okay. Speaker 8 2:28:32 Cool. Melkorka Kjarval 2:28:32 For the Red Hook Village Board monthly police report, June 2026 there was 443 instances. There were 267 in the village of Red Hook. There were 154 in the town of Red Hook, and there was 22 in the village of Tivoli. There was 94 water tower security checks. There were 69 uniformed traffic tickets. 37 of them were in the village. 23 were in the town of Red Hook, and nine were in the village of Tivoli. Parking tickets. There was one in each municipality, one in the village, one in the town, and one in the village of Tivoli. There were three arrests. There was two in the village of Red Hook and one in the town of Red Hook, and none in the village of Tivoli. And that is it for me. Does anyone else have any questions? Speaker 1 2:29:18 All right, Trustee. Frances Uku 2:29:20 Okay. Thank you. So I do have four reports for you. I will not subject you to verbatim readings of them all. So if anybody would like, they're available on the in the agenda center. Links to all of these are on the agenda page for this meeting. On a personal note, I would like to mark july 9. Sorry, it's late. july 9 is the one-year anniversary of the sudden death of my sister, Evelyn Uku. I would like to thank you all publicly for your patience with me in what has been the most difficult year of my life. I would also say that I love nothing more than to talk about her. So if you see me and you want to give me something to feel happy about, just ask. Okay. Yes. Karen Smythe 2:30:12 Thank you for saying that. What was her name? Frances Uku 2:30:15 Evelyn. Karen Smythe 2:30:15 Evelyn. Thank you. Frances Uku 2:30:21 Okay. My verbatim. for reports. So for highway, as you know, you can refer to the materials management spreadsheet. The new fiscal year open clean contaminated recycling charges were zero. Very happy to see our materials management expenses for trash disposal were $1,670.89 The garbage income we took in tags was $2,380 and with the Tivoli contract, which is 2730 the total June garbage revenue is 5111 No, 5100 and. and $10 which is great. Scrap metal, we had 580-one dollars and 40 cents in this reporting period. That's 60-$2,005.30-nine cents since the program began in 2007 I always have a section in my hiring report called "Giving Jake His Flowers, as we heard before, there are premature flowers given to Jake Smith. The crew put it put a rented lift to work this month. In the month of June, I mean, power washed Village Hall resealed the roof and fascia at the DPW shop. They washed both water tanks, cleared Abrams Park, and took down a dead tree. So the Tree City USA 24th anniversary decals also went up at the two gate at two of the four gateways of the village, and they also ordered two traffic calming speed humps, which the mayor and and also the police lieutenant alluded to. Okay, so Red Hook Public Library for June. The board met on June 18th with Marta Tepepa presiding. There's a photo as well. I have of their new front entrance door, back entrance, not front entrance, back entrance door. That is a real huh? Karen Smythe 2:32:14 I was going to ask because I was didn't think they had a front door. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no. That's in. It is the back door. It's the back. Frances Uku 2:32:21 It's the back. And yes, I was must have been just writing. And the the photo though is of the back. So yes, where was I? Okay. Yes, they had a lot of programming in the month of June, which I participated in with my little human sidekick. The Mermaid Parade on June 13th with Tivoli was centered around a reading of the of the book Julian is a mermaid by Jessica Love. We also joined in the Tour de Red Hook on June 14th, which was technically technically hosted by the town's Greenway and Trails Committee, but it originated in the library. Facility plans adds an ADA priority. They were discussing what their priorities were: the handrail edging at handicap parking, alongside ramp railings, and the and they have a summer slate, active summer slate underway, and their finances are below budget year to date. Okay, for the village green, there's okay yes. So the DEC forestry grant. So I advertised and attended a webinar on June 2nd that DEC hosted about this grant that I've brought to you previously, and I spoke up in the Q&A and and brought up Red Hook's case. They were very positive about it, but then they did. The Village Green did approach the town tree commission, and they have declined to join a joint application, intermunicipal application. So the village, as far as I understand from village green, the village intends, the village green is recommending we proceed on our own. This is a tree inventory and management plan to update our most most outdated 2007 assessment, and that's due to the state August 12th. So they will be bringing they'll be bringing more information to the board. They do have their next their third quarter meeting this Thursday at 6 p.m. at Village Hall. They are also seeking new board members, and so I have been tasked with asking if you have any ideas for how they can, for instance, like a news flash or or. Karen Smythe 2:34:32 Just to clarify, when you say board members, are you talking about committee members? Frances Uku 2:34:36 No, I'm talking about their Village Green asking us what Karen Smythe 2:34:40 the Village Green Committee. Frances Uku 2:34:41 Yes, village green committee asking the village board if there are Karen Smythe 2:34:46 from the board. Okay, I thought yeah. Oh, sorry. Did it more board members? Got it. Oh, Frances Uku 2:34:50 more members. Sorry, did I say more board members? It should say committee members. Oh, you know what's going on. It was really Perry Allen 2:34:58 successful a few years ago, out front of out front of the library, you guys hosted a committee day. Do you remember this? The oh, the library hosted. Oh, I was gonna say. Okay, because that was an interesting, and I know public spaces at that time was getting started. Melkorka Kjarval 2:35:16 Town supervisor, by Perry Allen 2:35:16 the way. Oh, she also got in trouble. All right, scandalous event. But I will say it brought a couple people to my committee at least, so I don't know if it was kind of like an open table event where everyone could advertise their committee and people showed up, and I wound up I think getting three members that day. I Frances Uku 2:35:31 think they've previously done some tabling at Hardscrabble. I don't know. Maybe I've that that might be that might be a thing as well. They are coming up to fall planting day. It's very. This is a tricky committee because you know it's it's hard because they have a charge, but also people have varying times available to commit. They have anyway, so they're looking for more. Do do do we think I could get? Would I need to speak to Jen, or how how would I? Can I get them a news flash sent out on the village thing. To be honest, we have Karen Smythe 2:36:05 several. I mean, we've got the wetland committee, we've got the pedestrian committee. Actually, I didn't read your report until after I put out my newsletter because I had mentioned both of the new committees. I could have mentioned that, and I can certainly put it in my August newsletter. Okay. And yeah, I don't see why we can't put out a put out a flash that that just and it might be a ways to get involved in the village and then have you know have multiple because I think every committee is always looking for more people. Frances Uku 2:36:37 Right. Sure. They also do have their. I know with some of the other, or maybe that's just the plan. With it would be nice to advertise the fact that they have their meeting coming up on Thursday because I think that's also something people don't. Karen Smythe 2:36:51 The only tricky part is Jen's not in until Friday, so I don't. I don't. Okay. You know how to do that. I don't know if you know how to do that. Yes, I don't know how to do that. I absolutely do not. Okay, may I Frances Uku 2:37:06 talk to you, Mel Coca? Then yes, that's fine. Melkorka Kjarval 2:37:07 Okay, I actually have a question for you about contacting the chair. Can you share with me the chair's email so I can? Yeah, Village Frances Uku 2:37:16 Green Chair. Yes. Yes. That would be Melkorka Kjarval 2:37:17 great. So let's trade that. We'll both deserve this first job. Frances Uku 2:37:21 Okay, hold on. Send. I'm just making a note from next. Yes, I will do that tomorrow morning. Where did I leave it? How did I finish? Sorry, I meant to be very efficient with my. Okay. Yes, and then the last one is just just this is just for the public because you've all. This is just a summary of my involvement with the EFC sewer expansion grant funding at NICOM in February. I connected directly with EFC and asked how the village could secure funding towards our sewer expansion. And the coordinator pointed me to an intermunicipal grant pathway and set up a call with EFC's community assistance team, which I did set up and invited the mayor and briefed the mayor, and then we had this meeting. And then, subsequently on June 16th, we heard from EFC, and on the meeting they confirmed the reading that I raised previously in February that the path forward is a joint village town application, which we are now moving forward on, and so the application is underway. is due July 27th with expanded scope and potential for additional funding, like we have covered earlier in the meeting. This is a real win. I'm really, really very excited for us all. And so, yes, if you need to see anything from my previous reports to the board, that and the briefing sheet that I've presented both to the mayor and the town supervisor, are linked in my reports. All four reports are respectfully submitted by me. Thank you for allowing me to do so. Karen Smythe 2:38:55 Great, thank you very much, Trustee Allen. All Perry Allen 2:38:58 right, sew report. Things are currently status quo. However, I must note that we have had three instances. There was an overflow at the post office with their pump station, but was easily remediated. Was no significant problem at our plant. Karen Smythe 2:39:14 Before you go there, I just want to clarify that that overflow that our operator was in touch with DEC and they confirmed that it did not qualify as a non-compliance event. Perry Allen 2:39:25 Yes, 100% Thank you for clarifying. We had an instance of a high mud well at the plant, which was resolved by backwashing. The team is currently going through a process of automating that backwashing system, so that we can try to avoid things of that nature. Melkorka Kjarval 2:39:46 Perry. Perry Allen 2:39:46 Yes. Melkorka Kjarval 2:39:47 I'm so sorry to ask, interrupt, but Mudwell. Now that you are in the mix, now you know things that we don't know. Perry Allen 2:39:53 Let's see. Melkorka Kjarval 2:39:53 What is a Mudwell? Perry Allen 2:39:54 Oh, okay. Interesting. So this is a good test. My understanding of the Mudwell is that, as the influent is coming in, it is one of the collection points. Will you take it over, please? Yes, please just go for it. Thank you, thank you, thank Speaker 9 2:40:16 you, thank you. I know I'll miss it. So it's actually Karen Smythe 2:40:19 towards the end of the process when there's the sand filters that the the liquid goes through after it's been through the clarifier. Okay, it goes through the sand filter. When the sand filter gets backed up, it overflows into the mud well. Also, the sand filters are backwashed, which is as simple as water is is sent up through the sand filter to clean it up, and then it overflows into the mud well because whatever's in there, you want to get it out of there. Melkorka Kjarval 2:40:51 It's like your bathtub thing, right? Like once it goes into there, like gets high enough, it goes into it. Never mind. Yes. I Karen Smythe 2:40:58 haven't thought about a bathtub in a while. Okay. There are a few Perry Allen 2:41:02 systems like that there. Yes. Okay. Karen Smythe 2:41:04 And so, so either when the mud mud wells over, so the mud wells are literally next to the sand filters. Okay. And when the mud the mud well liquid goes back to the EQ tank, and then it's put back into process. Okay. And so either the sand filters get get clogged up, and then whatever comes in audio just sort of overflows into the blood well, or they're backwashing and goes into the mud well. Okay, thank you. Sorry to yeah, thank you. You direct your flow. Perry Allen 2:41:35 No, not at all, and that's good. I need to obviously still have a lot to learn. Melkorka Kjarval 2:41:39 You got to remember, there's rubes still Perry Allen 2:41:41 on the board. I'd be too as well. So something that we should be aware of is that there are high temperatures at the plant, not in anything that is of emergency or even by less concession concern, but that we should know that as a board, we will be getting notice of that due to the summer heat and the fact that the bugs in our plant love when it's hot. The the combination of those things we can expect there to be slightly raised temperatures Marybeth DeFilippis 2:42:15 in the outflow Perry Allen 2:42:17 in the outflow, Karen Smythe 2:42:18 and we have a we have a limit on that in our speedies permit, and the idea is if you've got 90 degree water that you're discharging into a stream, that can have a negative impact on the. It's it's a it's a our our limit is 70 degrees, and in was it May? I think the old plant was at 71 degrees. Perry Allen 2:42:41 71. Karen Smythe 2:42:42 Okay, but in June it's gone up, and I'm not sure what it is in June yet. Perry Allen 2:42:47 Yeah, it's Karen Smythe 2:42:48 in the low, low to mid 70s. Yeah, Perry Allen 2:42:50 I think he had mentioned 74, but we could expect we could expect it to go up. He did mention that there's going to be a process of he has something that he's trying at the moment. If it doesn't work on a bacterial level, he'll begin. Sorry, it's getting late. Karen Smythe 2:43:11 Taking more bugs out. Perry Allen 2:43:12 Taking more bugs out in order to compensate wasting. Wasting. Thank you. That's the word I was looking for. Wasting the bugs so as to not allow them to grow as quickly and produces much heat, so he's working on it. We're monitoring it, but we should be aware that we might be getting just notice about that. Karen Smythe 2:43:27 It ends up being a non-compliance event that we require to report. Apparently, it's something that happens in a lot of a lot of wastewater plants, particularly because there really isn't a mechanism to cool it, and if we were to install something, it would be quite expensive. Frances Uku 2:43:44 And this is-is this the kind of thing that the short-term upgrades? Maybe Karen Smythe 2:43:52 not. It Perry Allen 2:43:53 was actually interesting to hear Les talk about it. Seemed as though this was a common problem at sewer plants. Now, obviously, it's something I haven't vetted personally in my own research, but he seemed to say that in the summertime, with these bug-related systems, as you say, it's a Karen Smythe 2:44:10 combination because the effluent coming, the influent coming, and it's hot and it's warm anyway, and then the outside temperature is warm, and Frances Uku 2:44:18 it's so it sort of Karen Smythe 2:44:20 all warms up, so it's possible that because the tanks are bigger in and the expansion, the tanks are bigger. It may keep it cooler for longer, but we I don't think we've actually had that conversation. We should ask. And Perry Allen 2:44:33 I'm just thinking this right now, and this is really big picture, long term thinking. But perhaps as well that long term, the wetland committee could be looking at funding opportunities to help with the outflow temperature. You know, maybe that's something from that, since that would be a major expense. But maybe that's a wetland protection element that we could be looking at. Just throwing that out there. Just keep it going for time's sake. They recently very excited about this. Jake Smith. This isn't perfectly articulated here in the report, so I'll just say it here. Jake Smith beautifully built a safety railing system in one of our plants, which was essential. It seemed as though Les's team was really excited to have that in, and once again, we're so glad that we have Jake because he was able to do it with materials that we had, and now we're assessing the cost on how to do that in the other plants as well as some other safety mechanisms as well. So that's really fantastic. As it's been brought up, we were provided with the engineering schematics both for our short-term updates, which we reviewed today. Technically, that's coming in my report for next month, or for our next meeting. But I can tell you, it was very interesting. I feel really confident the fact that we have our operators and our public works people really vetting the process and ensuring that it's going to work on the ground. So we, it was a really fantastic meeting, and we also have those extensive plans, that 700 page document that we all received in our email as well. The Daily Catch recently visited the plant as a follow up to a story that they had done about a year ago. Be eager to see what they have to say. I am also currently receiving quotes from various energy suppliers to renegotiate our costs. I should have everything for the for you all by our next workshop meeting, so we can discuss that. Karen Smythe 2:46:28 And that's related to electric costs. Perry Allen 2:46:30 Electric cost. Sorry, to electric costs. Yes, I personally just wanted to talk about that intermunicipal grant, which we already did. So that was that follow-up question. Any questions for me before going on to public spaces? Karen Smythe 2:46:47 The only thing that I would point out is, if you look at the report, it's not always that easy to figure all of it out. But the old, the new plant has a capacity, has a stated capacity of 50,000 gallons, the average for the month of May was 30,186, and the old plant has a capacity, a stated capacity of 25,000, and the average was 7,000. So, with all of the work that's been done, we, you know, the question came up of the Hughes project. There's room in there for that project. Perry Allen 2:47:27 Amazing. All right, public spaces. Things are moving really well in this committee. Some of our members collaborated with the town for recent pollinator plantings at the rec park. So huge thank you to all of them, and as far as our personal projects, we have the revitalization of Abraham's Park. We recently had a grant approved for our engineering study for our parking lot possibilities. Thank you, Mayor, for pursuing that. We're so that is not necessarily going to build the parking lot or anything, but we'll get some ideas from the engineer of what could happen there. Our design intern Ursula Wolf has been creating schematics. She presented to us just very rough concepts of shapes coming together. We'll be getting more actual ideas from her at our next meeting, upcoming on the 20th. She'll be presenting to us on august 10. So once again, get excited for that. Tell all your friends. We are regular. We are continuing to develop our catalogs of the flora and fauna of the park. Recently, got some wonderful feedback from the deputy mayor about perhaps developing some scavenger hunts throughout the park, based off of some of our cataloging that we can do, which will be brought up at the next meeting. So that should be very cool. Some of our committee needs. Just saying this out loud in case. Yeah, you never know. Exactly. We are interested in developing a web page, which we brought up in the meeting. Actually, I'm not sure why that one's not on here, but Betsy Melkorka Kjarval 2:49:02 emailed me. Betsy emailed you about that. We're on it. You're on that. Perry Allen 2:49:05 Okay, fantastic. I mean, Melkorka Kjarval 2:49:06 obviously you guys will be doing the content, but no, Perry Allen 2:49:09 but you're you're open to getting that up there for us. Thank you. We also just need more vested community partners. By that, I just mean we're eager to have more individuals who are interested in public spaces and parks. So to your plea again, anyone you know. So let's get on that train. If you haven't been to the park recently, please do go. Our public works department has mowed walking paths throughout the park. They are absolutely wonderful. It completely it radically changes your experience of the space to just have a mode path to walk through. So I strongly recommend everybody check it out to just engage with the space in a new way and get some ideas to what it could be. And Karen Smythe 2:49:54 there are also some fun signs that were created by some young people, which adds to the fun. Perry Allen 2:50:00 Definitely, definitely. Oh, and I see here as well. The wetland rehabilitation is now on my list. We haven't met yet, but we have our first meeting scheduled for July. Don't quote me. You can quote me, but I might have to update this. I believe July 26th we'll be meeting and beginning our work, and I'll be excited to report back to you all on that. Frances Uku 2:50:24 Thank you so much. Karen Smythe 2:50:27 July 20-six is Sunday. Perry Allen 2:50:29 Okay, it's definitely not that day. Okay, let me get my calendar out. I should have just done that from the beginning. Sorry to hold you up. Karen Smythe 2:50:35 I only look just because I want to make sure that there's no conflict with. I mean, we have a variety of meetings these days, so I want to make sure there's no conflict. Frances Uku 2:50:42 20-seven. Or they can Karen Smythe 2:50:44 always be, you know, here in the courtroom versus Perry Allen 2:50:47 20-eighth. Sorry. 20-eighth. Yes. Tuesday. Tuesday the 20-eighth at 636 Karen Smythe 2:50:51 30. Yes. Perry Allen 2:50:56 Tuesday the 20-eighth at 630 Karen Smythe 2:50:58 You may cross paths with the with the cleaners, but they'll be mostly done by them. Just FYI. And before I before I pass it on to Trustee Rothstein, before you all get too excited, we we do have an executive session. It shouldn't be long, but we do have an executive session with an action afterwards to keep your width value. Yes, don't start packing up your stuff. Stay fresh. Karen Smythe 2:51:25 All right, have at it, Craig. Craig Rothstein 2:51:26 All right. Build Red Hook Water Report. Thank you, Karen. You did the heavy lifting on this one. We had a meeting on June 22. I'm not going to read everything on this page, but I'm going to pull out a few things that I think are particularly interesting. Melkorka Kjarval 2:51:40 Thank you. Craig Rothstein 2:51:40 We had a meeting on june 22 It was a good time. Interesting. The Red Hook Central School District is asking us to use water from one of the hydrants to water the fields while they're doing some renovations. So we're going to be charging them for the water. Particularly interesting. The Archdrop Fiber has been in touch with our Superman Jake about switching to their internet services for the remote monitoring of the whole system. That's really good and will save us money and provides with a much more stable internet connection for that. We've got some sampling for PFOA, which I'm thrilled about because that's some dangerous stuff, and the federal government is not being any help in that regard. So there's going to be more sampling done this summer, and let's see, hydrants will be painted, and we had a rousing discussion about how we will paint them. And rest assured, they will be painted in a way that is consistent with best practices. Melkorka Kjarval 2:52:43 There are 144. It's amazing. Craig Rothstein 2:52:45 Indeed. Karen Smythe 2:52:46 Isn't that? Yeah, we should have. We should have had everybody guess how many. Yeah, Craig Rothstein 2:52:52 and there are some numbers. I know that you are on the very edge of the seat. Yep. Here we go. The utility bills issued $167.30. Penalties and finance charges issued $592.32. Utility payments received $10,483 $10,483.72. 80-$3.70-two cents. We levy unpaid and property taxes zero, and or I should say nil in the spirit of the World Cup, and accounts receivable outstanding to the village as of July 1, 16,970-one dollars and 80-one cents, and I think that's just about it, right? So there we go. Karen Smythe 2:53:46 Okay. Next item is actually the motion for the vouchers, and so I'm asking for a motion to ratify the bill's paid master audit since the last meeting, as detailed in the treasurer's July 1320, 26 workshop report, in the following amounts: general fund 13,680-one cents, water fund 8750-one dollars and 40-five cents. You don't need to write this down. I'm going to give it to you. Sewer fund 120-3740-$5.30-five cents. This includes the 119,450- the 119,455 Delaware Engineering Sewer Phase Two invoices covered by the county grant that you all actually did approve prior, but this reflects those those payments. Additionally, to approve the audited vouchers as presented by the treasurer to be paid in the following amounts: general fund $69,321.30 water fund $28,820.71 and the sewer fund you'll find in the packet if you haven't gone through it yet that there are a handful of Delaware engineering bills for the phase two sewer expansion that were incurred prior to the county grant. So the county grant is only allowing bills from December 1st on, and I I have put a note on them and confirmed with our village attorney that we should not approve them until we have our financing. So the plan for those invoices is once we get our financing from EFC, which we will do one way or the other, that we will then pay those bills. But until that's lined up, it doesn't make sense for us to approve those bills. So excluding those, the sewer fund bills are $8,718.80-seven cents. So I need a motion. May I have that motion? Frances Uku 2:55:49 I have a question. Are you are you taking the the bills after audit? Is this for everything? I only because I had a question about one of the vouchers that I would like to address before we question. Okay, so it was about, and I can grab it if General is over there. But it was about the Nelson Pope and Voorhees invoice, where my question, my question, and I am not questioning the payment at all. This is a payment that's been made. The invoice. It's a valid obligation, and our duty is to do the audit and pay bills that have been incurred. Incurred, but I, but I, my question was about the invoice itself. One, the project is billed. So this is for Gateway North for zoning, right? And it's billed as Cookingham properties. So my question is why that's the case Karen Smythe 2:56:41 because when we initially engaged Nelson Pope and Voorhees, that is what we were referring to the project as. I'm not. I can absolutely ask her. It's not. It's not the right nomenclature. Frances Uku 2:56:53 It it Karen Smythe 2:56:54 it sort of started from there, but it it it certainly expanded, and it should be called the Gateway North. And I will ask her to change that for future bills. And I'm happy to cross that out and put Gateway North on the invoice. Frances Uku 2:57:06 Okay, and just this is-it's okay. It's I'm glad you take it in the in the spirit in which it's meant I didn't. It wasn't a gotcha. So the other thing as well is just some of the notes on the invoice is you know the consultant had had you know and I just made notes on this as I say it's just verbatim from the from the invoice you know transmit to mayor determine what edits to make my concern is just because we have this process and I think we have done we do a really good job of having public of having public discussion on zoning changes, and we just had a very productive meeting earlier today. I I feel that it it behooves us to decide these things in public, as opposed to there being a funnel. We all have to vote on this. On the yes. So just Karen Smythe 2:58:04 just to clarify. Yes. Prior to this meeting, I met with Bonnie and Victoria to discuss what the meeting would look like, what we would discuss, what to do prior to. So there was a question of do the initially. initially it was how how do we manage these questions etc so it's just in the lead up there are no decisions being made there's that's why we're having these public meetings so that the entire board can be there the public can see it is all very all very fran but it doesn't mean that I'm not in contact with Bonnie, separate and different from our public meetings. Frances Uku 2:58:44 No, of course not. You have to be in touch. But the the reason I bring it up is is I yes I only because the language is determined what edits to make. So that's what gave me. That's that's the reason for my my question. And maybe it's some, you know. Karen Smythe 2:59:02 And my guess, not not not knowing what the date associated with that was, it was Frances Uku 2:59:07 the it's May may 4. Karen Smythe 2:59:08 Then that would have been related to whether or not whether or not questions would be incorporated into the document or they would be treated separately. So she chose to define it as edits. It was not a decision to make changes to the document. It was more how do we approach the discussion around how we proceed from here. Frances Uku 2:59:33 Okay. Well, I also just wanted to say that I really enjoyed earlier today, and I think it's a really it's a great way to work. I enjoyed the process. It was a lot of work on the on the study as well. So, I'm very happy to see that we are moving forward in that same vein. It's yeah. Karen Smythe 2:59:50 Any other anybody else have questions on the vouchers? May have a motion to, as as as read out previously, to approve the. Perry Allen 3:00:00 So moved. Karen Smythe 3:00:01 Thank you, Perry. Second. Second. Thank you, Craig. All in favor? Frances Uku 3:00:05 Aye. Aye. Perry Allen 3:00:06 Okay. Karen Smythe 3:00:07 Okay. We do need. I I would like a I would like a motion to go into executive session to discuss current litigation. So move. Thank you. Second. Melkorka Kjarval 3:00:22 Second. Karen Smythe 3:00:22 Thank you. All in favor? Okay. We will have an action upon our return invitation. I don't suspect it will take. Unknown Speaker 3:00:30 Okay. It's not easy. It's really tight, but it's not important. [transcript continues — part 2 of 2, after executive session] Karen Smythe 0:00 Go back into public session. So moves. Thank you, Perry. Second. Frances Uku 0:04 Second. Karen Smythe 0:04 Thank you, Craig. All in favor? Speaker 1 0:06 Aye. Karen Smythe 0:07 Okay. And so we have a resolution authorizing settlement in the matter of Jennifer Fear against the Village of Red Hook, and this would be resolution number 3030. probably up to 30-eight or something. I Jen Cavanaugh, Clerk 0:26 think it's 30, Karen Smythe 0:30 potentially 30-830-eight. There we go. Good, good, good call on my part. And just to clarify, this is a small claims action, and the village denies any liability, fault, or wrongdoing in connection with the action, maintains that the charge was lawfully imposed and relevied, and maintains the validity and enforceability of Village Code 165-1 and 165-4. This is related to snow removal bill. The village board of trustees, upon that the advisory council has determined that the cost of continued litigation would likely exceed the amount in controversy. The challenge was for a charge of 260-one dollars, and that compromise of the disputed charge solely to avoid the burden, expense, and uncertainty of further litigation, and without regard to the merits, is in the best interests of the village. Now, therefore, be it resolved, Village Board of Trustees of the Village of Red Hook hereby authorizes the settlement of the action on the following terms: the village shall accept the sum of $125 in full and final satisfaction of the $261 charge relevied upon the plaintiff's property tax bill in full and final satisfaction of all claims asserted or that could have been asserted in the action inclusive of all cost disbursements, interest, and attorneys' fees. Be it further resolved that Vandewater and Vandewater and Ross Gould, Esquire, as attorneys for the village are hereby authorized to negotiate and finalize, etc. and also that this settlement is authorized solely to avoid the costs and uncertainty of continued litigation, and that neither this resolution nor the settlement shall constitute or be construed or offered as an admission of liability, fault, wrongdoing, or violation of any law, ordinance, rule, or regulation on the part of the village, or any of its officers, officials, employees, or agents, all of which are expressly denied, or any admission that the charge was improperly imposed or relevied, nor any concession as to the validity or enforceability of the village's codes, which the village expressly reserves the right to enforce against plaintiff and all other property owners. Resolve that this resolution take effect immediately. I do need someone to make a motion. Frances Uku 2:57 Oh, one second. So we. Oh, so you weren't reading it verbatim. I was Karen Smythe 3:01 not reading the whole thing. I just, you know, it will be available. It will be available on Reds. I'm happy to read the whole thing. So moved. Thank you. Second. I guess I should take a roll call. Craig. Aye. Harry. Aye. Fran. Frances Uku 3:22 I'm an I with the provision that we may well see more of these. We we just need to yes, it's code. We have no deep no liability. We accept no responsibility for like the village is not liable for any. So you're Karen Smythe 3:36 you're an I. Frances Uku 3:37 Yes, I'm an I. Karen Smythe 3:39 Mike Orcom, I, and I'm an I. Okay, thank you very much. I, anybody have any further business? I'll take a motion to adjourn. Thank you, Craig. Second. Seconded. Thank you, Mary. All in favor? Frances Uku 3:57 Aye. Aye. Aye. Karen Smythe 3:58 Excellent. Thank you. Okay Transcribed by https://otter.ai